[Server-devel] [XSCE] xsce on centos/rpi3

Adam Holt holt at laptop.org
Tue Dec 13 20:26:10 EST 2016

On Dec 13, 2016 7:53 PM, "Anish Mangal" <anishmg at umich.edu> wrote:

Are we supporting two OSes or switching to debian as base?

Supporting two OSes sounds too (two) cumbersome. The latter would make more
sense if indeed it is happening.

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For what release is this scheduled?

XSCE 6.2 officially, but Raspbian worked well with George's 6.1 derivative
earlier this autumn.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Adam Holt <holt at laptop.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 3:07 AM, Adam Holt <holt at laptop.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 9:04 PM, Anish Mangal <anishmg at umich.edu> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Wondering if anyone has tried installing XSCE on centos on rpi3, and
>>> faced issues. Planning to try this out now that I have rpi3's
>> Not yet.  Most of us are using Raspbian (see Nov 30's
>> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/a-security-update-for-raspbian-pixel/)
> Just FYI a new development is that a growing number of kickass deployments
> are asking me for the full Raspian ("Pixel" takes up 3GB more disk "Lite"
> version, likewise its zip/download is 1.1GB larger) as it provides an
> increasingly well-rounded learning suite for remote teachers/techs/kids to
> learn Linux & much more:
>    http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspbian/release_notes.txt
> Aside: currently lacking Sugar regrettably, and not quite as well packaged
> for educators as those other Brits @ https://twitter.com/teamkano.
> Naturally there are other deployments that do not want these 3GB of
> learning/IT tools, as things boot faster without, and traditionalists do
> not want visual tools (X Windows).
> In essence it took half a decade, but the $35 computer is now unleashing a
> lot of field innovation across these 2 categories primarily:
> 1) "one RPi3 per child" deployments who require modern visual tools on
> each RPi3 (and can afford a cheap LCD per child/seat)
> 2) "one RPi3 server per classroom" deployments (who may or may not be able
> to afford an LCD or projector for the teacher)
> Of course there are many of both types of learning communities above and
> others, who do not always see eye to eye (imagine that, another culture
> war, what a surprise ;)  So our Mission is to encourage maximum
> cross-fertilization across these most practical scenarios--wherever we can,
> despite not-invented-here bubbles of innovation--embracing creative
> cross-collaboration / proven best practices as a larger force than
> infantile infighting, across an entire planet of fantastically passionate
> grassroots implementers~
> In many cases Sugarizer-on-XSCE/IIAB can provide a partial answer.  But
> Tony Anderson is correct to remind us Sugarizer does not yet provide nearly
> as rich an experience as full Sugar.  Meantime all educators cry out for
> platform stability that constructionism ironically relies on, so
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/13.2.8 on XO laptops is a big
> step forward with Sugar 0.110, thanks to James Cameron!
> or FedBerry (http://fedberry.org) as HW/networking support (Bluetooth,
>> WiFi, etc) is far better.
>> In future CentOS may catch up; these 3 people are certainly trying:
>> https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2016-December/162276.html
>>> Best,
>>> Anish
>> --
>> Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org !
> --
> Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org !

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