[Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: Cubox Solidrun Prototype Packaging

[Jon Nettleton]

I poked around a bit more on the web to see if there are better battery
solutions.  This seems to be the most powerful/fast charging.
http://www.amazon.com/External-Battery-Pack-Limeade-L156X/dp/B00BZDK3XK/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1388904862&sr=1-1&keywords=Limefuel+Blast+L156X

It can take a 2amp input for charging/pass through and autodetects both
ports with a max output of 4.2 amps.

This guy does have a larger battery at a cheaper price but it is less
specific with operation details.

http://www.amazon.com/EC-TECHNOLOGY-Ultra-high-Thunderbolt-Incredible/dp/B00FDK2G2C/ref=pd_sim_cps_5#productDetails

If this is a route we think we would like to go down. I could contact both
companies and see what they think about continuous use of their products in
pass through mode.  Some charging circuits are designed better than others.

If we want to power the XSCE from a 12 volt source we would also need
something like
http://www.amazon.com/KEEDOX%C2%AE-Converter-Power-Supply-Module/dp/B00A71CMDU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1388905619&sr=1-1&keywords=dc+12v+to+5v
which
we then solder the appropriate ends onto.

For costing we are looking at around

$100 cubox
$90 drive
$35 case
$50 battery
$10 dc/dc converter

$30-50 cables and connectors.

Right around $300 USD.


On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 2:27 AM, Tim Moody <tim at timmoody.com> wrote:

>   the rj45 passthrough connectors referenced in the immediately preceding
> email.
>
> Tim
>
>  *From:* George Hunt <georgejhunt at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 04, 2014 8:06 PM
> *To:* xsce-devel <xsce-devel at googlegroups.com>
> *Cc:* XS Devel <server-devel at lists.laptop.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [XSCE] Re: Cubox Solidrun Prototype Packaging
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Tim Moody <tim at timmoody.com> wrote:
>
>>   I ordered 3 of these and some passthrough usb 2.0 connectors for good
>> measure.
>>
>
> This thread has talked about enclosures, disks, batteries. Which did you
> buy 3 of?
>
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>  *From:* Jon Nettleton <jon.nettleton at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 04, 2014 12:15 PM
>> *To:* xsce-devel <xsce-devel at googlegroups.com>
>>  *Cc:* George Hunt <georgejhunt at gmail.com> ; XS Devel<server-devel at lists.laptop.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [XSCE] Re: Cubox Solidrun Prototype Packaging
>>
>>   Those and some sheet metal screws or pop rivets look about perfect to
>> me.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Tim Moody <tim at timmoody.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://www.markertek.com/Connectors-Adapters/Data-Connectors-Adapters/RJ45-CAT5-and-CAT6-Connectors/Switchcraft-Corporation/EHRJ45P5E.xhtmlor someplace else to find a cat5e case mountable receptacle.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>  *From:* Tim Moody <tim at timmoody.com>
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 04, 2014 11:50 AM
>>> *To:* George Hunt <georgejhunt at gmail.com> ; Jon Nettleton<jon.nettleton at gmail.com>
>>> *Cc:* XS Devel <server-devel at lists.laptop.org> ; xsce-devel<xsce-devel at googlegroups.com>
>>> *Subject:* [XSCE] Re: Cubox Solidrun Prototype Packaging
>>>
>>>    My first question is are we trying to run off AC or 12V DC.  If the
>>> latter, do we need a 12V connector and wires to split for the cubox and the
>>> drive?
>>>
>>> I was also assuming we would use a conventional 2.5” sata drive with a
>>> sata to esata connector cable.
>>>
>>> My custom case at home brings motherboard usb to an external connector
>>> and I’m guessing that ..231 does the same.  It would be nice if there were
>>> an rj45 connector on the chassis that could pass through the ethernet from
>>> the cubox.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>  *From:* George Hunt <georgejhunt at gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 04, 2014 10:44 AM
>>> *To:* Jon Nettleton <jon.nettleton at gmail.com>
>>> *Cc:* Tim Moody <tim at timmoody.com> ; XS Devel<server-devel at lists.laptop.org>;
>>> xsce-devel <xsce-devel at googlegroups.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Cubox Solidrun Prototype Packaging
>>>
>>>  My experience tells me that connectors are the weak link in most
>>> systems.  So I'm not excited about a connector that is part of the
>>> essential data path, exiting the enclosure and exposed to being
>>> bumped/damaged.
>>>
>>> Jon, I'd really like to start working on your kernel, and getting it to
>>> play nicely with the XSCE. Is that possible? soon?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Jon Nettleton <jon.nettleton at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I figured we just put the cubox at the back of the case for now and
>>>> loop the esata cable back around into the box to hook up the drive.  Is
>>>> there any reason to even worry about making the hdmi cable available?  In
>>>> the back of my head I do have a dream where the XSCE could sit attached to
>>>> a monitor/projector for teaching materials, but that seems far enough out
>>>> not to worry about it.
>>>>
>>>> What does everyone else think?  You guys obviously have more "in the
>>>> field" experience than myself.  Those sorts of cases just seemed like a
>>>> relatively cheap solution to a problem that was brought up.
>>>>
>>>> I did talk with Rabeeh about the cooling for the i4pro and he said the
>>>> external case didn't need any sort of special cooling it just radiates as
>>>> is and should be fine completely enclosed.  There is actually a team that
>>>> is building an i4pro into their RC surveillance plane :-)  My i4pro should
>>>> be here this coming week and I can box it up, stress test it, and monitor
>>>> thermals from the on-board sensor as well as my IR thermometer to make sure
>>>> things look reasonable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 3:48 PM, George Hunt <georgejhunt at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What's the best strategy long term? The cubox has all its connectors
>>>>> on one face. Most of these need to be available to the outside. We can open
>>>>> the cubox and solder a esata connector that comes out the back. Picture is
>>>>> at http://imx.solid-run.com/wiki/index.php?title=CuBox-i_Hardware.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or we can try to project the essential stuff from the cubox mounted
>>>>> internally, and not really accessible from the outside.  The second item
>>>>> ending in 231 looks like it has pigtails to project the usb to the
>>>>> outside.  We'd need to do the same for the internal ethernet adapter. This
>>>>> approach still leaves the hdmi, and console usb that might need to be
>>>>> available occasionally.
>>>>>
>>>>> So maybe in the long run, we need something intermediate between the
>>>>> two Jon has suggested, so that when it is necessary, we can get a hand into
>>>>> the box to make insert the hdmi or console cables.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm in favor with going with number ..231 this time around.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Jon Nettleton <jon.nettleton at gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well from taking some basic measurements I was thinking we could pack
>>>>>> a 2.5" sata drive and connector along with the cubox into a 5.25 external
>>>>>> case like this
>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817145090
>>>>>> That with a few dremel modifications and some soldering I think it would
>>>>>> make a nice compact holder.  Given the time constraints that is probably
>>>>>> not happening.  I did look around and found this which is more than enough
>>>>>> space to do whatever is needed without much more cost,
>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163231  It
>>>>>> also has excellent ventilation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course these are just suggestions to help create a more
>>>>>> self-contained product right now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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