[Server-devel] Feedback: Problems with XSCE

Samuel Greenfeld samuel at greenfeld.org
Fri Nov 29 05:10:03 EST 2013

I think you need to be careful how you phrase that -- you just half implied
that all laptop.org hosting is going away.  There has been a fair amount of
fear that resources may suddenly disappear, and I have been concerned about
fragmentation where hosting of resources ends up all over the place.

If there is a perceived need to migrate resources then that should be made
clear, as others have already offered potential alternative hosting.  But
there needs to be coordination.

Focusing on the Deployment side, I would tend to agree with John's comments
as well.

Both Sugar and the Schoolserver have been historically focused on being
their own ecosystem.  This has never changed, yet Sugar and the XS are
often offered for use where existing DHCP, DNS, and other services already

Due to local policies, you may not be allowed to name your schoolserver
"schoolserver".  You may have to support 802.11x network authentication,
etc.  It is possible to kludge these but the solutions are not elegant.

If the Sugar and XSCE communities feel that the "enterprise"/first-world
use case is a desired scenario where Sugar, IIAB, and/or Moodle may only be
a part of a school's network instead of the primary role, then this
specifically needs to be targeted.


On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 3:33 AM, James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org> wrote:

> I agree with John.  Every point in his documentation section should be
> handled.  Especially the point about wiki.laptop.org, which has so
> many distracting links on the navigation bar that we are all used to,
> but which new people become lost in.
> With regard to forums, the type that Google Groups has where they can
> also be received in mail may suffice.
> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 11:44:33AM +0530, Anish Mangal wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to share this blog post from John Ellis with the XSCE
> community:
> > John is a high school student who is trying to setup XSCE in his
> class/school
> > under the supervision of his teacher Jeff Elkner.
> >
> > http://johnmichaelffs.blogspot.in/2013/11/problems-with-xsce.html
> >
> > Some of the stuff he points out certainly makes a lot of sense to me, I
> think
> > the core underling message is to make XSCE more approachable to the end
> user
> > and the advanced end-user/deployer. He has gone to some lengths to point
> out
> > specific aspects which could be improved.
> >
> > As we think about the possibilities for XSCE-0.6, I would like to
> further the
> > discussion along these topics here and/or on IRC. I think the project
> could do
> > well listening to end users' needs for the 0.6 cycle, especially that we
> now
> > seem to have our house in order codewise thanks to the terrific work by
> all the
> > software hackers here :-)
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Anish
> >
> >
> >
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