[Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: $400 computer for Haiti

Jon Nettleton jon.nettleton at gmail.com
Fri Dec 20 11:30:25 EST 2013


Here is a great reference for choosing hard drivers.
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2013-mobile-hdd-charts/benchmarks,136.html
If you scroll down you will see power draw during idle, video playback,
database.  Looks like we should easily do an entire system with drive for <
3 watts

-Jon


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:11 PM, George Hunt <georgejhunt at gmail.com> wrote:

> Looking at the pdf certification/specification documentation for the Dell
> 660s, I find the idle power is 51 watts, peaking to 100 watts under heavy
> use.  The idle power continues to be my concern (Anna talks about heat. But
> it amounts to the same concern). For comparison purposes, Tony's MSI Atom
> bases machine measured 28 Watts, and the XO4 is about 8 Watts with external
> hard disk. For the higher wattages, the fan becomes the weak link.
>
> In my fantasy world, we could find the sweet spot between just the correct
> amount of cpu for our server application, nestled into RAM and hard disk,
> that minimized the cost of all the components.
>
> But googling Zotac fan replacement, I came up with the deciding factor,
> for me.  Zotac fans are not ball bearing, and apparently wear out within a
> year time frame. They are not available from Zotac, and are not available
> in replacement after-market form factor.
>
> I have experience with Dell parts replacement. So I'm inclined to go with
> Dell  the $399.99 Inspiron 660s i3-DualCore-3.4GHz-3MB cache, 4GB RAM,
> 1TB 7200rpm, 2X USB 3.0?
> http://dell.com/us/p/inspiron-660s/pd
>
> The Dell fan replacement instructions on page 59 of
> ftp://ftp.dell.com/Manuals/all-products/esuprt_desktop/esuprt_inspiron_desktop/inspiron-660s_Owner's%20Manual_en-us.pdfmake me much more confident that the hardware can live on for years.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Adam Holt <holt at laptop.org> wrote:
>
>> What about the $399.99 Inspiron 660s i3-DualCore-3.4GHz-3MB cache, 4GB
>> RAM, 1TB 7200rpm, 2X USB 3.0?
>> http://dell.com/us/p/inspiron-660s/pd
>>
>> Or the $499.99 Inspiron 660s i5-QuadCore-3.3GHz-8MB cache, 8GB RAM, 1TB
>> 7200 rpm, 2X USB 3.0?
>>
>> http://dealnews.com/Dell-Inspiron-660-s-Ivy-Core-i5-Quad-2.8-GHz-Desktop-PC-for-500-free-shipping/935700.html
>> http://www.logicbuy.com/deals/dell-inspiron-660s-deal/40218.aspx
>>
>> If we trust 7200rpm and Dell for reliability??  If so both appear to
>> offer free shipping if ordered by Dec 20 11am EST.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Anna <aschoolf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What's the climate control situation at the site in Haiti?
>>>
>>> I live in a 100 year old house in Birmingham, Alabama, without central
>>> AC.  In the summer, I have to physically relocate equipment to my "server
>>> room" (a well insulated room where I keep a window unit on full blast).
>>> Otherwise, fans sound like jet planes taking off and everything gets really
>>> hot and stressed.
>>>
>>> Anyway, heat related failure would be one of my main concerns in Haiti.
>>>
>>> Anna
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 4:58 PM, George Hunt <georgejhunt at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> The Haiti deployment we are preparing for, made $400 available for a
>>>> server, and power is available. What hardware has been the question.  Tony
>>>> had lots of experience with Atom processors, and suggested nettop boxes. My
>>>> research has led me to the following:
>>>>
>>>> $193 Zortec celeron processor
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Zotac-Dual-Core-Celeron-Barebone-ZBOXNANO-ID61-U/dp/B008OHRFE0/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1387490390&sr=1-7&keywords=zotac+barebone
>>>>
>>>> $75 8GB Memory --
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-1x8GB-Laptop-Memory-CMSO8GX3M1A1333C9/dp/B005T63BEM/ref=pd_sim_pc_1
>>>>
>>>> $86 WD blue 1TB drive --
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/WD-Blue-Mobile-Hard-Drive/dp/B005DVJJWQ/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1387491567&sr=8-4&keywords=wd+2.5+1+tb+blue
>>>>
>>>> Total $354 + tax
>>>>
>>>> Per Tim Moody's suggestion, I consulted
>>>> http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
>>>>
>>>> The Atom processor d535 has a passmark score of 693
>>>> The celeron, for about the same price, selected in this proposal, has
>>>> passmark score of 1215
>>>> The i3 version of the Zortac box is $130 more and its passmark score is
>>>> 3833
>>>>
>>>> Of course, cpu benchmarks are not the only issue. I think it has been
>>>> suggested more money should be put into memory, when trying to serve many
>>>> clients.
>>>>
>>>> Soliciting inputs . . .
>>>>
>>>> George
>>>>
>>>>
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