[Server-devel] Testing EduBlog

Tarun Pondicherry tarunpondicherry at gmail.com
Thu Aug 14 22:27:28 EDT 2008


Hi Tony,

I think for now we will avoid sending mail from the server.  I hacked 
the auth module to bypass the email validation.

Thanks,
Tarun
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> Tarun,
> you bring up a good point.  What do we need to do to activate an email 
> service on the XS server to allow this for moodle registrations?
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> *Tarun Pondicherry <tarunpondicherry at gmail.com>*
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> 08/14/2008 09:20 AM
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> 	Pablo Flores <pflores2 at gmail.com>
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> 	Greg Smith <gregsmitholpc at gmail.com>, Tony Pearson/Tucson/IBM at IBMUS, 
> glen at venango.org, marcel r <marcelr01 at gmail.com>, Said Ramirez 
> <saidramirez0 at gmail.com>, Samuel Klein <sj at laptop.org>, 
> server-devel at lists.laptop.org
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> 	Re: Testing EduBlog
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> Hi Pablo,
> > Yes! It works now with the right link! (I had used the link of
> > EduBlog_Instructions).
> Great!
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> Did you have a chance to look at the modified blog creation interface?  
> I moved the settings into that page so teachers can directly link their
> own Blogger.com blogs rather than having an admin configuring the blogs
> for them.  I think this is easier to use.  However, we can revert to the
> other version if you disagree.
> > I could post well from th XO this way. 2 comments:
> > - The cursor does not appear in the text area when writing the body.
> > - It's not possible to handle the size of the image... However, this
> > could wait for version 2 ;-)
> Looking into it.
> > Now, let's talk about the user management.
> > With my new user pflores I could login, then it asked me if I am sure
> > to enroll to the course, y clicked Yes and it appears a banner:
> > "Sorry, but you do not currently have permissions to do that (Manage
> > activities)". I posted a screenshot of this in my new blog (blog
> > creado desde XO
> > 
> <http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/mod/oublog/view.php?id=15>). 
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> > When I hit "Continue" it takes me back to the home page.
> Were you trying to post to a blog or create a new blog?  When you enrol
> you are by default a student so you can post to blogs and view them but
> not make new ones.  I tested creating a new account and these links
> work.  To create a new blog, an admin needs to set your account to a
> teacher level.
>
> How do you envision the ideal process for user registration for our
> test?  (I think when fully completed and installed on the XS, Moodle
> will authenticate based on the MAC address of the XO)
> > The other question is: How will children create their own account if
> > it needs an administrator approval? It might become a bit
> > impractical... Maybe it's better not needing the approval, and if
> > there is some trouble, the admin can delete unwanted users, what you
> > think?
> Moodle gives us several authentication options.  I will try to implement
> what you are suggesting as an auth module.  Students can just register
> without any confirmation.  Also, email based registration won't work
> because as far as I know, the XS does not have an email service.
>
> Thanks,
> Tarun
> > On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Tarun Pondicherry
> > <tarunpondicherry at gmail.com <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi Pablo,
> >
> >     I realized that the links on the homepage were pointing to the old
> >     pages.  I updates the links at wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog
> >     <http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog>.  Please let me know if that
> >     resolves the first issue you mentioned.
> >
> >
> >     Thanks,
> >     Tarun
> >
> >     Pablo Flores wrote:
> >
> >         Hi Tarun.
> >
> >         I'm afraid some things in EduBlog are not working as they
> >         should when working in an XO.
> >
> >         I downloaded the last BrowseNew, which has the new homepage,
> >         that is ok. When I go to the "Create new blog" link
> >         
> (http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=3&section=0&return=0
> >         
> <http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=3&section=0&return=0>
> >         
> <http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=3&section=0&return=0
> >         
> <http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=3&section=0&return=0>>),
> >         it takes me to the moodle login in spanish, so far so good.
> >
> >
> >         Then if I try to login with the user teacher, it takes me to
> >         an error message that says: "This course doesn't exist", and a
> >         "Continue" button. When I press it, it goes back to the home
> >         page. The same happens if I login with the user teacheres. If
> >         then I go again to the "Create new blog" link, I can see the
> >         courses page, but it's not possible to create a new course,
> >         there is no link or option for this.
> >
> >         Another problem I found trying to create a new user: I could
> >         fill in the registration form, but it never sends me the
> >         confirmation email, so I can't finish the process.
> >
> >         Other strange behaviour in the XO, is that the "logout" option
> >         never appears in the top-right of the page.
> >
> >         I'll try to go on testing, but so far the administration is
> >         not working from the XO...
> >
> >         Saludos,
> >         Pablo Flores
> >
> >
> >         On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Tarun Pondicherry
> >         <tarunpondicherry at gmail.com
> >         <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com>
> >         <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com
> >         <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> >            Hi Pablo,
> >
> >            The version downloadable from:
> >            http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog_Instructions under the
> >         heading
> >            "For Those with Build 656" has the new homepage.  Please 
> let me
> >            know if it works.
> >
> >            About, the lang settings, when you go to any of the pages it
> >            should be spanish (assuming your xo is using the spanish
> >            localization).  If that does not work, then I will force the
> >            setting to spanish and not try to detect the localization.
> >
> >            About multiple users, I was thinking that in a real 
> school each
> >            teachers and students have their own account.  Then, they
> >         can do
> >            concurrent things without issues.  My concern is that for
> >         the test
> >            it looks like we are going to use the same user account for
> >            everyone which can cause problems.  If we can create
> >         separate user
> >            accounts for all the teachers and students testing, that
> >         would be
> >            ideal.
> >
> >            Thanks for taking the time to test this stuff out.
> >
> >            Tarun
> >
> >                Hi Tarun!
> >                Thanks for the great work you are doing!
> >
> >                See comments below.
> >
> >                Saludos,
> >                Pablo Flores
> >
> >
> >                On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Tarun Pondicherry
> >                <tarunpondicherry at gmail.com
> >         <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com>
> >                <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com
> >         <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com>>
> >                <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com
> >         <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com>
> >
> >                <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com
> >         <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
> >
> >                   Hi Pablo,
> >
> >                   I tried to address most of these concerns in the 
> updated
> >                version.
> >                    Please let me know if I got the attempted fixes 
> right.
> >
> >
> >                I'll try to take some time this afternoon to test the
> >         system.
> >                 What I found with the previous version is that BrowseNew
> >                didn't change its homepage. I talked with Greg that it
> >         would
> >                be very simplifying for teachers and children to make
> >                BrowseNew go straight to
> >         http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog, a
> >                page I will get some time to finish with the
> >         instructions to
> >                start to work. Would it be possible to change this?
> >
> >
> >
> >                   I'm also thinking about how to configure the language.
> >                 Currently,
> >                   it detects if the Browser is es or en and bases its
> >         setting on
> >                   that.  We could also change it to force es not
> >         matter what.
> >                 Which
> >                   do you think is better?
> >
> >                For us, both possibilities are good if they work well ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> >                   Another concern I have is that if testers login at
> >         the same
> >                time
> >                   with the same username, it may break things.  Is this
> >                something to
> >                   worry about, or will the system be tested by one
> >         person at
> >                a time?
> >
> >                Well, this may be a real problem working in a real
> >         school. The
> >                normal workflow is that the teacher proposes something
> >         to work
> >                in and blog about it, then children start to work
> >                altogether.... what problems may happen?
> >
> >
> >
> >
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