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        Recién leí el archivo sobre tu aburrimiento con Historia, pero
        no entendí qué era lo que te aburría porque en vez de explicarlo
        ponés ejemplos de lo que se puede hacer con programas de Sugar.<br>
        Te cuento que a mí en el liceo me gustó mucho Historia pero en
        la escuela me aburrió infinitamente.  Nada más nos enseñaban
        fechas y frases apologéticas y estampitas para pegar en el
        cuaderno.  Me doy cuenta que era época de dictadura y no se le
        puede pedir a esa época mucha cosa pero...  <br>
        Igual enseñaban como si todos fuéramos retrasados porque en vez
        de enseñar distinto a los distintos alumnos, nos enseñaban a
        todos igual y al ritmo del más lento.  Por dar un ejemplo, un
        cuento de pocas páginas como Saltoncito lo estiraron hasta que
        ocupó todo el año.  Obviamente el 99,9% de los que salimos de
        allí, tenían la idea de que leer era un bodrio y la Historia no
        sirve para nada.<br>
        Como digo, mi época fue un período especial de la historia
        uruguaya por lo que me hubiera gustado saber qué era lo que te
        aburría a vos, Carlos.  Cosa de la que no me enteré leyendo el
        archivo.  Si pudieras despejar mi curiosidad, te agradecería.<br>
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        <i>Un abrazo<br>
          <b>Sylvia</b><br>
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    El 04/02/12 14:22, Carlos Rabassa escribió:
    <blockquote cite="mid:2D56EE11-C385-47CB-9A2B-764D144D3816@mac.com"
      type="cite">Flavio,
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      <div>Yamandú publicó recientemente una propuesta de proyecto a
        encarar como comunidad cibernética.  Si mal no recuerdo una de
        las sugerencias era editar artículos de Wikipedia.</div>
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      </div>
      <div>El primero de los dos artículos está pidiendo por favor que
        alguien lo edite.  Según dicen los anuncios al principio del
        mismo,  </div>
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        <div>- no cumple con las convenciones de estilo.</div>
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        <div>- no hay acuerdo sobre la neutralidad del punto de vista.</div>
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        <div>- la exactitud de la información está discutida.</div>
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      <div>Tal vez tú o algún profesor de historia o asiduo lector de
        historia como tú,  podría interesarse en usarlo para poner en
        marcha el proyecto propuesto en estas listas.</div>
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      <div>Una vez más,  ni siquiera leí el artículo todavía como para
        poder decirte siquiera si me parece bueno o malo y ya saltó a la
        vista un primer uso interesante del mismo.</div>
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      <div>Cuanto más diferencias tengamos es probable que más útil
        resulte nuestro diálogo.</div>
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      <div>Acabo de buscar esta página</div>
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href="https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1DAX9vi6VHYUGA0y_xuIuwgUIh2fqDbono4y-SP_fN9c">https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1DAX9vi6VHYUGA0y_xuIuwgUIh2fqDbono4y-SP_fN9c</a></div>
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      <div>que escribí hace mucho tiempo.  Como verás hablaba de cuánto
        me aburrían las clases de historia y explicaba por qué.</div>
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      <div>Tal vez podrías darnos a todos tu opinión sobre lo que allí
        digo y junto con algunos educadores especializados en historia,
         tal vez encuentren una solución para que los niños de hoy no
        terminen con la misma impresión negativa que me dejaron a mí la
        enseñanza primaria y secundaria de la historia.</div>
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            <div>Carlos Rabassa</div>
            <div>Voluntario</div>
            <div>Red de Apoyo al Plan Ceibal</div>
            <div>Montevideo, Uruguay</div>
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          <div>On Feb 4, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Flavio Danesse wrote:</div>
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          <blockquote type="cite">Yo siempre he sido un gran lector
            Carlos, sobre todo sobre historia.
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              <div class="gmail_quote">El 4 de febrero de 2012 08:51,
                Carlos Rabassa <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                escribió:<br>
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                    <div>me alegra ver que como consecuencia del mensaje
                      con el discurso que no te gustó,  te has puesto a
                      investigar y a buscar más información.  Siempre
                      que tengamos este tipo de reacción pienso que se
                      está logrando un propósito muy bueno del
                      intercambio de mensajes en las listas,  que todos
                      nos enriquezcamos pensando e investigando.</div>
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                    </div>
                    <div>Te aclaro en primer lugar que no soy ni el
                      padre ni el dueño de EEUU.  Soy simplemente uno de
                      los muchos ciudadanos que tiene ese país que nos
                      acogió con brazos abiertos a mi esposa y a mí
                      cuando nos encontramos totalmente desorientados en
                      nuestro país.  Como ves,  todos los problemas
                      humanos tienen dos caras.  Tu nos explicabas
                      recientemente los motivos que tienes y que
                      comprendo perfectamente,  para tener sentimientos
                      tan diferentes de los míos en este mismo tema.
                       Espero comprendas los nuestros.</div>
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                    <div>Algo muy interesante que leí hace algún tiempo
                      y me parece muy cierto,  todos tenemos tendencia a
                      agruparnos,  especialmente desde que aparecieron
                      las listas de correos,  con gente que se parece a
                      nosotros.  Y eso acarrea un problema muy grave.
                       De las personas muy parecidas a nosotros no
                      tenemos nada que aprender ni ellos tendrán nada
                      que aprender de nosotros.  El diálogo nos
                      enriquece cuando cada uno tiene algo para ofrecer
                      diferente de lo que ofrece el otro.</div>
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                    <div>No desearía criticar la lista de enlaces que
                      nos envías pero pienso tiene un defecto muy
                      importante.  Si lo que buscabas eran cosas malas
                      de Obama y del gobierno de EEUU,  pienso que se te
                      escapó la más horrible de todas,  cuyas
                      consecuencias recién se están comenzando a ver.</div>
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                    <div>Hace muy poco tiempo la Suprema Corte de
                      Justicia de EEUU aprobó cambios importantes en las
                      leyes más básicas que controlaban y limitaban las
                      donaciones a políticos y sus campañas.  Es algo
                      complejo así que si te interesa el tema mejor que
                      busques una fuente con más conocimientos que los
                      míos.  Las consecuencias se están viendo en este
                      mismo momento en que se acerca la próxima campaña
                      presidencial.  Sin violar la ley se pueden formar
                      grupos que junten grandes cantidades de dinero que
                      se destinen a la campaña política de los
                      candidatos que el grupo prefiera ayudar o
                      perjudicar.  No hay problema si el grupo desea
                      atacar al opositor en vez de ayudar a su candidato
                      preferido.  También existen caminos para
                      dificultar casi totalmente o no sé si totalmente
                      la posibilidad de que el público conozca a los
                      donantes que desean permanecer anónimos.  Es una
                      situación que,  como dije,  no sé exactamente
                      hasta donde puede llegar pero la veo muy parecida
                      a la que se describe en la famosa película "El
                      candidato manchuriano".  Un grupo ayuda a un
                      candidato con apariencia relativamente buena a que
                      lo elijan presidente.  El grupo tiene sus medios
                      para que el nuevo presidente les obedezca en todo
                      lo que ellos quieran pedirle.  </div>
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                    <div>Nada de esto creo haya sido culpa de Obama,
                       excepto tal vez sus promesas de más
                      transparencia,  que en muchos casos ocurrió y que
                      asustó a muchos de sus opositores.  A los miembros
                      de la suprema corte los propone el presidente y
                      son electos en forma vitalicia.  En consecuencia
                      de los miembros actuales,  una muy pequeña minoría
                      creo que 2 en 9 fueron electos por Obama.  Lo que
                      pueden logran los políticos de cualquier país,
                       con mucho dinero a su disposición para usarlo en
                      sus campañas electorales,  creo todos podemos
                      imaginarlo.  Las malas ideas se desparraman
                      rápidamente por el mundo,  no hay ningún país
                      inmune a este problema.</div>
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                              <div>Carlos Rabassa</div>
                              <div>Voluntario</div>
                              <div>Red de Apoyo al Plan Ceibal</div>
                              <div>Montevideo, Uruguay</div>
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                        <div>On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:40 AM, Flavio Danesse
                          wrote:</div>
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                        <blockquote type="cite">Mirá, esta no la tenía,
                          parece que ahora si vamos a ser todos iguales:
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                                href="http://albatv.org/Obama-firma-la-Ley-de-Autorizacion.html"
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href="http://www.informador.com.mx/mexico/2012/348885/6/congreso-rechaza-ley-de-autorizacion-de-defensa-nacional-de-eu.htm"
                                target="_blank">http://www.informador.com.mx/mexico/2012/348885/6/congreso-rechaza-ley-de-autorizacion-de-defensa-nacional-de-eu.htm</a></div>
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href="http://real-agenda.com/tag/la-ley-de-autorizacion-de-defensa-nacional/"
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                            <div class="gmail_quote">El 26 de enero de
                              2012 12:35, Flavio Danesse <span
                                dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:fdanesse@gmail.com"
                                  target="_blank">fdanesse@gmail.com</a>></span>
                              escribió:<br>
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                                style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
                                #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Bueno, mira
                                Carlos.
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                                <div>Como era de esperarse, me han
                                  retado por la contestación que te di
                                  en la lista y me han dicho
                                  "desubicado".</div>
                                <div>A si que, pido perdón a quien le
                                  haya parecido desubicada mi
                                  contestación, porque entiendo que no
                                  todos perciben las cosas de la misma
                                  manera, sin embargo, no estoy para
                                  nada arrepentido de darte tal
                                  contestación así que me voy a
                                  "desubicar" de nuevo.</div>
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                                <div>No es la primera vez que tu y yo
                                  discutimos por temas políticos y cada
                                  vez que lo hacemos la cosa empeora.</div>
                                <div>Tu sabías antes de publicar esto,
                                  que yo te iba  a contestar.</div>
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                                  Como familiar directo de un torturado
                                  en dictadura por oficiales del
                                  ejército que concurrieron a "clases de
                                  tortura" en la escuela de las
                                  américas, como el mismo departamento
                                  de estado norteamericano se encargó de
                                  publicar no hace muchos años, no te
                                  voy a dejar pasar este tipo de cosas.</div>
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                                <div>Para mi la política es
                                  verdaderamente desagradable, pero
                                  determina la vida de las personas, así
                                  que es una cuestión de piel.</div>
                                <div>Si le haces propaganda a este tipo
                                  yo te voy a contestar sobre lo que el
                                  tipo hace y en este caso se traduce en
                                  muerte de personas en varios países
                                  del planeta y robo de petroleo. Como
                                  premio nobel de la paz es bastante
                                  belicoso te diré.</div>
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                                <div>Ahora tu le puedes llamar política
                                  si quieres.</div>
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                                <div>Ningún problema con el pueblo
                                  estado unidense, pero que sepan lo que
                                  siente la gente por la política
                                  exterior de su gobierno y que actúen
                                  en consecuencia.</div>
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                                <div>Así que, en definitiva, si tu
                                  publicación tiene lugar en la lista y
                                  mi contestación no lo tiene, es
                                  evidente que este no es lugar para mi.</div>
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                                  <div class="gmail_quote">El 26 de
                                    enero de 2012 09:40, Carlos Rabassa
                                    <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:carnen@mac.com"
                                        target="_blank">carnen@mac.com</a>></span>
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                                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                          style="margin:0 0 0
                                          .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                                          solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                          <div
                                            style="word-wrap:break-word">Flavio,
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>debo volver a repetir
                                              que mi mensaje original
                                              sugiere específicamente
                                              que nos concentremos en la
                                              forma y preparación del
                                              discurso y hagamos caso
                                              omiso de su contenido.</div>
                                            <span><font color="#888888">
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>Carlos</div>
                                              </font></span>
                                            <div>
                                              <div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div>On Jan 25,
                                                      2012, at 10:54 PM,
                                                      Flavio Danesse
                                                      wrote:</div>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <blockquote
                                                      type="cite">
                                                      No me pongas
                                                      asesinos en los
                                                      ejemplos, que en
                                                      América Latina
                                                      conocemos en carne
                                                      propia la política
                                                      de los paladines
                                                      de la democracia y
                                                      justicia.
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">El
                                                          25 de enero de
                                                          2012 22:51,
                                                          Flavio Danesse
                                                          <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:fdanesse@gmail.com" target="_blank">fdanesse@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                          escribió:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
                                                          style="margin:0
                                                          0 0
                                                          .8ex;border-left:1px
                                                          #ccc
                                                          solid;padding-left:1ex">Carlos,
                                                          te voy a
                                                          buscar un
                                                          video de
                                                          hittler
                                                          avivando masas
                                                          a ver si
                                                          sirve, que
                                                          seguro que era
                                                          mejor que
                                                          obama dando
                                                          discursos y
                                                          que seguro
                                                          también
                                                          estaban mejor
                                                          preparados por
                                                          su famoso
                                                          ministro de
                                                          propaganda.
                                                          <div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Seguro
                                                          sirve para
                                                          aprender
                                                          Alemán.<br>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">El
                                                          25 de enero de
                                                          2012 22:45,
                                                          Alan Jhonn
                                                          Aguiar Schwyn
                                                          <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:alanjas@hotmail.com" target="_blank">alanjas@hotmail.com</a>></span>
                                                          escribió:
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                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
                                                          style="margin:0
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          Carlos:
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Como
                                                          suele
                                                          suceder.. la
                                                          idea es
                                                          buena.. la
                                                          implementación
                                                          no..</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Podrías
                                                          haber elegido
                                                          otro video con
                                                          algún otro
                                                          personaje...
                                                          que no se
                                                          preste a
                                                          tantas
                                                          opiniones
                                                          encontradas...</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Saludos!</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Alan<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <hr>From: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:carnen@mac.com" target="_blank">carnen@mac.com</a><br>
                                                          Date: Wed, 25
                                                          Jan 2012
                                                          22:40:38 -0200<br>
                                                          To: <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:olpc-sur@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">olpc-sur@lists.laptop.org</a><br>
                                                          Subject: Re:
                                                          [Sur] ¿Lees en
                                                          Inglés pero no
                                                          entiendes
                                                          cuando te
                                                          hablan?
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Flavio,
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>o no
                                                          leíste mi
                                                          mensaje,  o no
                                                          lo entendiste
                                                          o no lo
                                                          quisiste
                                                          entender.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Mi
                                                          sugerencia es
                                                          usarlo para
                                                          mejorar
                                                          conocimientos
                                                          de inglés y
                                                          para aprender
                                                          que decir un
                                                          buen discurso
                                                          da mucho
                                                          trabajo y que
                                                          si se hace ese
                                                          trabajo el
                                                          resultado es
                                                          bueno.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>También
                                                          quería
                                                          mencionar la
                                                          actividad
                                                          "debatir" que
                                                          es algo que
                                                          sería muy útil
                                                          enseñar para
                                                          que aprendamos
                                                          a debatir
                                                          temas,
                                                           aprendiendo
                                                          todos y
                                                          llegando a
                                                          conclusiones.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          Justamente
                                                          creo que
                                                          deberíamos
                                                          hacer un
                                                          esfuerzo para
                                                          que al tratar
                                                          de conversar
                                                          no recibamos
                                                          respuestas
                                                          como la que me
                                                          envías basadas
                                                          exclusivamente
                                                          en tus
                                                          convicciones
                                                          ideológicas y
                                                          totalmente
                                                          fuera de
                                                          relación con
                                                          el mensaje que
                                                          contestas.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>No creo
                                                          este sea un
                                                          foro para
                                                          discusiones
                                                          políticas y
                                                          esa no fue mi
                                                          intención.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Pero si
                                                          es un foro
                                                          sobre
                                                          educación y
                                                          aprender a
                                                          hablar en
                                                          público y a
                                                          discutir en
                                                          persona o en
                                                          foros es algo
                                                          sumamente útil
                                                          y que
                                                          deberíamos
                                                          darle la
                                                          importancia
                                                          que merece.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Carlos</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>On Jan
                                                          25, 2012, at
                                                          10:11 PM,
                                                          Flavio Danesse
                                                          wrote:</div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <blockquote>Lo
                                                          único que me
                                                          faltaba por
                                                          escuchar en la
                                                          lista, al
                                                          "premio nobel
                                                          de la paz".
                                                          <div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Y decime
                                                          Carlos, de que
                                                          habla, a donde
                                                          manda los
                                                          marines esta
                                                          vez?</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Se van de
                                                          ahití o se
                                                          quedan?, y de
                                                          Afganistán?,
                                                          de Irak?, que
                                                          van a hacer
                                                          con Lybia,
                                                          Siria, Irán?</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <div>Al final,
                                                          cual es pueblo
                                                          elegido? EEUU
                                                          o Israel?,
                                                          nunca me quedó
                                                          del todo
                                                          claro, lo
                                                          aclara el
                                                          video este?.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          El 25 de enero
                                                          de 2012 19:33,
                                                          Carlos Rabassa
                                                          <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:carnen@mac.com" target="_blank">carnen@mac.com</a>></span>
                                                          escribió:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          style="border-left:1px
                                                          #ccc
                                                          solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          ¿Lees en
                                                          Inglés pero no
                                                          entiendes
                                                          cuando te
                                                          hablan?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Si este es tu
                                                          caso,  te
                                                          recomendamos
                                                          esta grabación
                                                          del reciente
                                                          discurso del
                                                          Presidente
                                                          Obama:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgfi7wnGZlE&feature=digest_wed"
target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgfi7wnGZlE&feature=digest_wed</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Habla claro y
                                                          lento.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Tiene
                                                          subtítulos en
                                                          Inglés.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Puedes hacer
                                                          clic en el
                                                          ícono en la
                                                          extrema
                                                          derecha,
                                                           debajo de la
                                                          pantalla,
                                                          "Interactive
                                                          Transcript".
                                                          Aparecerá,  un
                                                          poco más abajo
                                                          la
                                                          transcripción
                                                          del discurso.
                                                           Se irá
                                                          moviendo a
                                                          medida que el
                                                          presidente
                                                          habla.  La
                                                          frase que está
                                                          pronunciando
                                                          en cada
                                                          momento,
                                                           aparece en
                                                          negrilla.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          El discurso
                                                          llama la
                                                          atención por
                                                          lo claro y
                                                          bien
                                                          organizado.
                                                           Toca muchos
                                                          puntos,  cada
                                                          uno separado
                                                          del anterior
                                                          por una pausa
                                                          y aplausos.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Está dirigido
                                                          a todo el
                                                          pueblo.  No
                                                          usa palabras
                                                          difíciles ni
                                                          lenguaje
                                                          indirecto o
                                                          rebuscado,  ni
                                                          tiene
                                                          contenido
                                                          entre líneas
                                                          que algunos
                                                          podríamos no
                                                          captar.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Sugiero lo
                                                          vean como
                                                          práctica de
                                                          escuchar un
                                                          discurso en
                                                          Inglés y como
                                                          ejemplo de un
                                                          discurso muy
                                                          bien preparado
                                                          por un grupo
                                                          grande de
                                                          asesores que
                                                          trabajaron
                                                          junto con el
                                                          presidente
                                                          durante muchas
                                                          horas para
                                                          prepararlo y
                                                          practicarlo.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          En cuanto al
                                                          contenido,
                                                           cada uno de
                                                          ustedes tendrá
                                                          sus opiniones
                                                          y no deseo
                                                          entrar aquí en
                                                          una discusión
                                                          sobre
                                                          política.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Se podría eso
                                                          sí usarlo como
                                                          base para
                                                          practicar el
                                                          arte de
                                                          debatir,
                                                           tomando como
                                                          base cada uno
                                                          de los muchos
                                                          temas que
                                                          explica.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          También podría
                                                          ser la base
                                                          para enseñar
                                                          Educación
                                                          Cívica,
                                                           discutiendo
                                                          en grupos cada
                                                          uno de los
                                                          problemas que
                                                          menciona y
                                                          comparándolos
                                                          con sus
                                                          equivalentes
                                                          en nuestro
                                                          país.
                                                           Discutir si
                                                          las soluciones
                                                          que propone
                                                          podrían o no
                                                          aplicarse en
                                                          nuestro país.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Carlos Rabassa<br>
                                                          Voluntario<br>
                                                          Red de Apoyo
                                                          al Plan Ceibal<br>
                                                          Montevideo,
                                                          Uruguay<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
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                                                          <br>
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                                                          </div>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          Lista olpc-Sur<br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                                          <br>
                                                          _______________________________________________
Lista
                                                          olpc-Sur
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
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