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    On 4/14/2011 1:39 PM, Pablo Flores wrote:
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:BANLkTi=VuqfyXZywO5W4z+H_HYutCTxTmA@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">Tengo entendido que alguien de OLPC estaba trabajando
      en un lector de pdf que tambi&eacute;n soportaba anotaciones. Copio a
      Adam Holt, quiz&aacute;s pueda darnos algo m&aacute;s de info.
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      </div>
      <div>Adam, isn't there a group working in an enhanced <b>pdf
          reader that supports annotations</b> and some other features?
        Can you give us some info about it?<br>
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    </blockquote>
    <br>
    Andreas,<br>
    <br>
    Do you have suggestions for Uruguay working with/beyond Gonzalo
    Odiard's latest Read 89 here?!<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Talk:Read#Install_read-89_on_a_xo-1.5_for_newbies">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Talk:Read#Install_read-89_on_a_xo-1.5_for_newbies</a><br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc_boston/2011-March/000666.html">http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc_boston/2011-March/000666.html</a><br>
    <br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:BANLkTi=VuqfyXZywO5W4z+H_HYutCTxTmA@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div>
        <div>Saludos, <br>
          Pablo Flores<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">2011/4/14 Fernando Cormenzana <span
              dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:fcormenzana@gmail.com">fcormenzana@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
              0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
              padding-left: 1ex;">
              Gracias a todos por los aportes.<br>
              <br>
              Luz verde para el desarrollo. Apoyo en lo que pueda.<br>
              <br>
              &iquest; Arrancamos ? :)<br>
              <br>
              <div class="gmail_quote">El 14 de abril de 2011 06:36,
                lara rodriguez <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:tareasdomiciliarias@gmail.com"
                    target="_blank">tareasdomiciliarias@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                escribi&oacute;:
                <div>
                  <div class="h5"><br>
                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt
                      0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,
                      204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">No entiendo muy
                      bien lo que buscan, pero el etoy levanta los pdf
                      para leerlos, lo comprobe en verano con mi hija le
                      descargaba libros en pen y ella los le&iacute;a, en linux
                      el pdf chain funciona bien para editar los pdf ya
                      creados.<br>
                      <br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">El 14 de abril de 2011
                        00:25, ana.cichero <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:ana.cichero@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank">ana.cichero@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                        escribi&oacute;:
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <br>
                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                              style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;
                              border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
                              padding-left: 1ex;">
                              Editor de pdf:<br>
                              <br>
                              La funci&oacute;n "sacar una foto" del pdf en
                              pantalla y que se copie al portapapeles no
                              la he encontrado en ning&uacute;n editor de pdf
                              linux...<br>
                              <br>
                              Para levantar im&aacute;genes de pdf usando
                              linux, lo que funciona muy bien es el gimp
                              ( te ofrece abrir cada p&aacute;gina como una
                              layer (capa) y seleccionar el rango de
                              p&aacute;ginas a abrir ) . En la ceibalita azul
                              esto resuelve el tema.<br>
                              Para levantar textos de pdf, en linux,
                              est&aacute; el PDFedit --es lo m&aacute;s pr&aacute;ctico que
                              encontr&eacute;-- y no es muy lindo.<br>
                              <br>
                              As&iacute; que buen&iacute;simo, si tienen ganas de
                              desarrollar algo similar al de adobe, que
                              capture una selecci&oacute;n de pantalla, har&aacute;n
                              algo util a xo y tambi&eacute;n&nbsp; linux :) en
                              general.<br>
                              <br>
                              Suerte y gracias de antemano.<br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              <div class="gmail_quote">2011/4/13 <a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:amviera@adinet.com.uy"
                                  target="_blank">amviera@adinet.com.uy</a>
                                <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:amviera@adinet.com.uy"
                                    target="_blank">amviera@adinet.com.uy</a>&gt;</span>
                                <div>
                                  <div><br>
                                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                      style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;
                                      border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,
                                      204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hola.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Dentro de la actividad
                                      CeibalTerminal, yo hice un peque&ntilde;o
                                      archivo llamado visor_de_pdf.py
                                      (creo que es as&iacute; como se llama, no
                                      lo recuerdo bien, y ahora no tengo
                                      la XO para verificarlo).<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Ese archivo tiene la base para lo
                                      que quieren realizar. Quiz&aacute; les
                                      sirva como para empezar, y a
                                      partir de ah&iacute; poder realizar
                                      ampliaciones a la actividad.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Tambi&eacute;n hay algo similar en la
                                      actividad Calendario.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Saludos, Mauricio Viera.-<br>
                                      <br>
                                      <br>
                                      <br>
                                      <br>
                                      <br>
                                      <blockquote><br>
                                        ----Mensaje original----<br>
                                        <br>
                                        De: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:fdanesse@gmail.com"
                                          target="_blank">fdanesse@gmail.com</a><br>
                                        <br>
                                        Fecha: 13/04/2011 18:41 <br>
                                        <br>
                                        Para: "Comunidad ceibalJAM"<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Asunto: Re: [Olpc-uruguay] Buen
                                        lector PDF para XO
                                        <div>
                                          <div><br>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            <div>
                                              <div style="width: 100%;">
                                                <h4><span
                                                    style="font-weight:
                                                    normal;">Se puede
                                                    construir todo esto
                                                    que pides en la xo,
                                                    la base de una
                                                    posible actividad
                                                    ser&iacute;a lo siguiente:</span><br>
                                                  <br>
                                                </h4>
                                                <b>Convertir pdf a tiff
                                                  de varias p&aacute;ginas:</b><br>
                                                <br>
                                                El paquete debian ?<span
                                                  style="color: rgb(153,
                                                  0, 0);">imagemagick</span>?
                                                tiene varias
                                                funcionalidades muy
                                                &uacute;tiles para el trabajo
                                                con im&aacute;genes.<br>
                                                Entre ellas, el
                                                siguiente comando
                                                permite convertir un pdf
                                                a un tiff de varias
                                                p&aacute;ginas (&uacute;til para temas
                                                de fax):<br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <span style="color:
                                                  rgb(153, 0, 0);">convert
                                                  documento.pdf
                                                  imagen.tiff</span><br>
                                                <br>
                                                Para visualizar un tiff
                                                de varias p&aacute;ginas, lo
                                                mejor es el visor de
                                                documentos Evince.
                                                <div><br>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div dir="ltr">
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p>
                                                          <b
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(0, 0, 0);">Ejemplo
                                                          en python para
                                                          leer pdf:</b><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <span
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(0, 0,
                                                          255);">import
                                                          evince</span><br
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(0, 0,
                                                          255);">
                                                          <span
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(0, 0,
                                                          255);"><br>
                                                          import gtk</span><br
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(153, 0,
                                                          0);">
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(153, 0,
                                                          0);">
                                                          <span
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(153, 0,
                                                          0);"><br>
evince.evince_embed_init()</span><br style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0);">
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(153, 0,
                                                          0);">
                                                          <span
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(153, 0,
                                                          0);"><br>
                                                          w =
                                                          gtk.Window()</span><br
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(153, 0,
                                                          0);">
                                                          <span
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(153, 0,
                                                          0);"><br>
                                                          w.show()</span><br
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(153, 0,
                                                          0);">
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(153, 0,
                                                          0);">
                                                          <span
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(153, 0,
                                                          0);"><br>
                                                          e =
                                                          evince.View()</span><br
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(153, 0,
                                                          0);">
                                                          <span
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(153, 0,
                                                          0);"><br>
                                                          w.add(e)</span><br
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(153, 0,
                                                          0);">
                                                          <span
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(153, 0,
                                                          0);"><br>
                                                          e.show()</span><br
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(153, 0,
                                                          0);">
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(153, 0,
                                                          0);">
                                                          <span
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(153, 0,
                                                          0);"><br>
                                                          document =
                                                          evince.factory_get_document('/home/flavio/Documentos/python.pdf')</span><br
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(153, 0,
                                                          0);">
                                                          <span
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(153, 0,
                                                          0);"><br>
e.set_document(document)</span><br style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0);">
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(153, 0,
                                                          0);">
                                                          <span
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(153, 0,
                                                          0);"><br>
                                                          gtk.main()</span></p>
                                                        <p><br>
                                                        </p>
                                                        <p><b>PD:<br>
                                                          </b></p>
                                                        <p>Podemos
                                                          construir una
                                                          actividad a
                                                          medida para
                                                          hacer estas
                                                          cosas &iquest;si
                                                          quieren?.<br>
                                                        </p>
                                                        <p><br>
                                                        </p>
                                                        <p><br>
                                                        </p>
                                                        <p><br>
                                                        </p>
                                                        <p><br>
                                                        </p>
                                                      </div>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                              <br>
                                            </div>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            <div class="gmail_quote">El
                                              13 de abril de 2011 18:16,
                                              Daniel Castelo <span
                                                dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dcastelo@plan.ceibal.edu.uy" target="_blank">dcastelo@plan.ceibal.edu.uy</a>&gt;</span>
                                              escribi&oacute;:<br>
                                              <blockquote
                                                class="gmail_quote"
                                                style="margin: 0pt 0pt
                                                0pt 0.8ex; border-left:
                                                1px solid rgb(204, 204,
                                                204); padding-left:
                                                1ex;"><br>
                                                Cualquier programa que
                                                encuentres comentalo,
                                                para secundaria tambien
                                                es importante.<br>
                                                <br>
                                                Nosotros probamos
                                                Lucidor, Calibre y
                                                FBReader. Calibre es
                                                bastante completo,
                                                aunque vamos a ver de
                                                modificarlo para que se
                                                adapte bien a la
                                                resoluci&oacute;n de la XO. <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                Saludos.<br>
                                                <font color="#888888"><br>
                                                  Daniel</font>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="gmail_quote">2011/4/13
                                                      Fernando
                                                      Cormenzana <span
                                                        dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:fcormenzana@gmail.com"
                                                          target="_blank">fcormenzana@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <blockquote
                                                        class="gmail_quote"
                                                        style="border-left:
                                                        1px solid
                                                        rgb(204, 204,
                                                        204); margin:
                                                        0pt 0pt 0pt
                                                        0.8ex;
                                                        padding-left:
                                                        1ex;">
                                                        <br>
                                                        Gracias Daniel
                                                        por la
                                                        respuesta.<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        De todas formas,
                                                        sigo buscando
                                                        alg&uacute;n programa
                                                        que tenga las
                                                        funcionalidades
                                                        pedidas. <br>
                                                        Otra funci&oacute;n que
                                                        me parecer&iacute;a muy
                                                        &uacute;til es la
                                                        posibilidad de
                                                        extraer de los
                                                        archivos PDF las
                                                        im&aacute;genes que
                                                        contienen. Hay
                                                        software para
                                                        Windows que usa
                                                        una "c&aacute;mara"
                                                        para sacar una
                                                        foto de la
                                                        imagen y
                                                        guardarla como
                                                        archivo gr&aacute;fico.<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        En ejemplo del
                                                        software que
                                                        busco, del que
                                                        hay buenas
                                                        versiones
                                                        gratuitas, es
                                                        Foxit.<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        Cordialmente,<br>
                                                        Fernando
                                                        Cormenzana<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">El
                                                          13 de abril de
                                                          2011 15:02,
                                                          Daniel Castelo
                                                          <span
                                                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:dcastelo@plan.ceibal.edu.uy"
                                                          target="_blank">dcastelo@plan.ceibal.edu.uy</a>&gt;</span>
                                                          escribi&oacute;:
                                                          <div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
                                                          style="border-left:
                                                          1px solid
                                                          rgb(204, 204,
                                                          204); margin:
                                                          0pt 0pt 0pt
                                                          0.8ex;
                                                          padding-left:
                                                          1ex;">Hablamos
                                                          de primaria
                                                          no?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          En Sugar la
                                                          actividad Leer
                                                          soporta
                                                          marcadores. Al
                                                          menos la
                                                          versi&oacute;n de
                                                          Leer de la
                                                          imagen
                                                          Dextrose.<br>
                                                          La idea es
                                                          usar el lector
                                                          de Sugar
                                                          porque esta
                                                          integrado al
                                                          diario. <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          No soporta
                                                          marcado de
                                                          texto. Tambien
                                                          soporta otros
                                                          formatos como
                                                          EPub que son
                                                          mas livianos.
                                                          El tema de la
                                                          carga es por
                                                          el hardware de
                                                          la XO, no
                                                          porque el
                                                          programa de
                                                          lectura sea
                                                          "malo". <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Saludos<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>2011/4/13
                                                          Fernando
                                                          Cormenzana <span
                                                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:fcormenzana@gmail.com"
                                                          target="_blank">fcormenzana@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
                                                          style="border-left:
                                                          1px solid
                                                          rgb(204, 204,
                                                          204); margin:
                                                          0pt 0pt 0pt
                                                          0.8ex;
                                                          padding-left:
                                                          1ex;">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          &iquest; Conocen
                                                          alg&uacute;n buen
                                                          lector de
                                                          archivos PDF
                                                          para la XO ?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          El que viene
                                                          demora mucho
                                                          en cargar
                                                          grandes
                                                          archivos...Adem&aacute;s,
                                                          me gustar&iacute;a
                                                          contar con
                                                          "bookmarks"
                                                          (se&ntilde;aladores
                                                          de p&aacute;ginas) y
                                                          alguna
                                                          herramienta
                                                          para resaltar
                                                          texto (como si
                                                          fuera un
                                                          marcador
                                                          fluo).<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          <br>
                                                          Gracias desde
                                                          ya,<br>
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                                                          Fernando
                                                          Cormenzana <br>
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href="http://nanotice.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://nanotice.blogspot.com</a><br>
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                                                          -- <br>
                                                          Ing. Daniel
                                                          Castelo<br>
                                                          Plan Ceibal -
                                                          &Aacute;rea T&eacute;cnica<br>
                                                          Avda. Italia
                                                          6201<br>
                                                          Montevideo -
                                                          Uruguay.<br>
                                                          Tel.: 2 601 57
                                                          73 Interno
                                                          2228<br>
                                                          E-mail : <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dcastelo@plan.ceibal.edu.uy" target="_blank">dcastelo@plan.ceibal.edu.uy</a><br>
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                                                    <br>
                                                    -- <br>
                                                    Ing. Daniel Castelo<br>
                                                    Plan Ceibal - &Aacute;rea
                                                    T&eacute;cnica<br>
                                                    Avda. Italia 6201<br>
                                                    Montevideo -
                                                    Uruguay.<br>
                                                    Tel.: 2 601 57 73
                                                    Interno 2228<br>
                                                    E-mail : <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dcastelo@plan.ceibal.edu.uy" target="_blank">dcastelo@plan.ceibal.edu.uy</a><br>
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_______________________________________________<br>
                                                <br>
                                                Olpc-uruguay mailing
                                                list<br>
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                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                        target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-uruguay</a><br>
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                                href="mailto:Olpc-uruguay@lists.laptop.org"
                                target="_blank">Olpc-uruguay@lists.laptop.org</a><br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-uruguay"
                                target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-uruguay</a><br>
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                      _______________________________________________<br>
                      Olpc-uruguay mailing list<br>
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                        href="mailto:Olpc-uruguay@lists.laptop.org"
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                href="mailto:Olpc-uruguay@lists.laptop.org">Olpc-uruguay@lists.laptop.org</a><br>
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                href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-uruguay"
                target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-uruguay</a><br>
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