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Hola a todos:<br><br>La captura de fotogramas desde Etoys en la xo ya está trabajando. Agradezco a Bert y Carlos por la colaboración.<br><br>Pato Acevedo<br>SugarLabs Chile <br><br><hr id="stopSpelling">From: carnen@mac.com<br>Subject: Re: [IAEP] Etoys Help Requested / Pedido de Ayuda Etoys<br>Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:14:14 +0100<br>To: patitoacevedo@hotmail.com<br><br>
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<meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft SafeHTML"><base>Pato,<div><br></div><div>que quieres decir con perfecto, ¿lograste hacer funcionar la cámara?</div><div><br></div><div>Carlos</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Feb 7, 2011, at 11:39 PM, Pato Acevedo wrote:</div><br class="ecxApple-interchange-newline"><blockquote><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><div class="ecxhmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">Carlos, eso trabaja perfecto.<br><br>Gracias por tu apoyo<br><br>Pato Acevedo<br><br><hr id="ecxstopSpelling">Subject: Re: [IAEP] Etoys Help Requested / Pedido de Ayuda Etoys<br>From:<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:carnen@mac.com">carnen@mac.com</a><br>Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:13:45 +0100<br>CC:<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>;<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:patitoacevedo@hotmail.com">patitoacevedo@hotmail.com</a>;<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:squeakland@squeakland.org">squeakland@squeakland.org</a>;<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:america-latina@squeakland.org">america-latina@squeakland.org</a><br>To:<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:bert@freudenbergs.de">bert@freudenbergs.de</a><br><br><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Bert,</span></font><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">thanks for your answer.</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">I believe I wrote the necessary scripts to get the computer to take pictures at regular intervals and automatically prepare an animation, based on those pictures, to get a result hopefully like this:</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cl0aw87LqA" target="_blank"><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cl0aw87LqA</span></font></a></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">We still have one problem for which we need help.</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Neither me using Etoys in a Mac, nor the person who asked me to post the question, using Etoys in Windows, can get the computer´s camera to respond to the Etoys commands in the video section of the camera visor.</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">These are the scripts we created, while we aren´t able to activate the camera:</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Dragging the camera object out of the Object Catalog, I get a blue frame with a working clock on it.</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Imagine please, until we resolve the problem of activating the camera, that the animation I want to create consists of a series of still pictures of this clock taken at regular intervals.</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Please find attached what I have done:</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"></span></font></div><br><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">I adjusted the clock in the takePics script to take the photos automatically at regular intervals.</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">I set it at 0.01 ticks per second which resulted in one photo every 1min 40sec as you can see in the clock photos already in the holder.</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">For the animation script I set the clock at 1 tick per second to be able to see the difference between each frame.</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><div><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word;"><div>Carlos Rabassa</div><div>Voluntario</div><div>Red de Apoyo al Plan Ceibal</div><div>Montevideo, Uruguay</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></span><br class="ecxApple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="ecxApple-interchange-newline"></div><br><div><div>On Feb 5, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote:</div><br class="ecxApple-interchange-newline"><blockquote><div style="word-wrap: break-word;"><div>Try</div><div><br></div><div><span class="ecxApple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;">        </span>Holder include: Camera's lastframe copy</div><div><br></div><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;">- Bert -</span><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><br></font><div><div>On 05.02.2011, at 19:01, Carlos Rabassa wrote:</div><br class="ecxApple-interchange-newline"><blockquote><div style="word-wrap: break-word;"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 16px;"><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" color="#ff1314"><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5" face="Arial"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Texto en Español luego del Inglés</span></font></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" color="#ff1314"><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5" face="Arial"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5" face="Arial"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5" face="Arial"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">An Etoys user has contacted us for help.</span></font></span><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">This is what he wants to do:</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">- Take pictures with and XO at regular intervals, let´s say every 10 minutes.</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">- Use a series of these pictures to put together an animation, the final result being something like this:</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cl0aw87LqA" target="_blank"><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cl0aw87LqA</span></font></a></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">He wants to work with Etoys, not Smalltalk.</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">He has been trying to use</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">⎮Camera´s⎮ Lastframe⎮ graphic⎮</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">to write a script to take the periodic pictures.</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">He would like to move the pictures to a holder to do the animation.</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Instead of getting the pictures he is getting just a tile called</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">⎮Camera´s⎮ Lastframe⎮ graphic⎮</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Your advice would be appreciated.</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" color="#ff1314"><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Texto en Español:</span></font></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Nos ha contactado un usuario de Etoys pidiendo ayuda.</span></font><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Esto es lo que quiere hacer:</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">- Tomar fotos con la XO a intervalos regulares, digamos cada 10 minutos.</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">- Usar una serie de estas fotos para juntarlas en una animación logrando un resultado de este tipo:</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cl0aw87LqA" target="_blank"><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cl0aw87LqA</span></font></a></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Desea trabajar en Etoys, no Smalltalk.</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Ha estado tratando de usar</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">⎮Camera´s⎮ Lastframe⎮ graphic⎮</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">para escribir un guión para tomar las fotos periódicas.</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Le gustaría mover luego las fotos a un contenedor para hacer la animación.</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">En vez de las fotos le está apareciendo un mosaico titulado</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">⎮Camera´s⎮ Lastframe⎮ graphic⎮</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Los consejos de ustedes serán apreciados.</span></font></div></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Carlos Rabassa</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Voluntario</span></font></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="5"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Red de 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