Hamilton has done the coding to get the XS to back up Sugar on a Stick.  We are currently testing it.<br><br>Caroline<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Mel Chua <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mel@melchua.com">mel@melchua.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">RAID-like option: takes a lot of space. If each student&#39;s journal can be<br>
up to half a gig (afaik that&#39;s back-of-the-envelope how much it gets on<br>
the XO), a classroom of 40 kids = 20GB thumbdrive and 0 data privacy.<br>
<br>
Automatic server backup is a feature that&#39;s been available for several<br>
months.<br>
(<a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Feature_Backup_and_restore_to_school_server" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Feature_Backup_and_restore_to_school_server</a>)<br>
I&#39;ve tested this myself; it works, at least on XOs. I see no reason why<br>
it would not work for SoaS, but have not tried - Caroline may know<br>
better what the status of SoaS with respect to schoolservers is. It&#39;s<br>
clunky, and the interface is ugly, but it works. You *do* need engineers<br>
who know what they&#39;re doing to make sure it&#39;s implemented properly,<br>
though - last time I checked, ease-of-setup hadn&#39;t been tackled yet.<br>
<br>
--Mel<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
James Shields wrote:<br>
&gt; Have you considered a RAID-like option ... store the classroom data on<br>
&gt; all machines in the classroom?  Full mirror on every machine.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; James Shields<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;     -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt;     *From:* Charles Chen [mailto:<a href="mailto:ideasman88@yahoo.com.au">ideasman88@yahoo.com.au</a>]<br>
&gt;     *Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2009 12:45 PM<br>
&gt;     *To:* OLPC Mailing List<br>
&gt;     *Cc:* James Shields<br>
&gt;     *Subject:* Back-up process requirement<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;     Hi James,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;     Thank you for raising the issue. Yes, the back-up is required to<br>
&gt;     maintain a record of the kid&#39;s work as he progresses on doing the<br>
&gt;     course supplement as well as really having a back-up record on the<br>
&gt;     current activity in case the USB being used is not available for any<br>
&gt;     reason (lost, stolen or corrupted).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;     However, please bear in mind we are discussing this on the<br>
&gt;     hypothetical basis. Until we can actually run a pilot which will<br>
&gt;     simulate the same classroom conditions of doing this, we will never<br>
&gt;     know for sure how realiable this will be or if it will work at all.<br>
&gt;     Hence, the need for the pilot.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;     I will keep you in loop when we are about to run the first pilot to<br>
&gt;     avail of your cooking ops, I mean your software developer skills.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;     Thanks.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;     Charles<br>
</div></div><div class="im">&gt;         ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         Message: 1<br>
&gt;         Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:22:02 +0800<br>
&gt;         From: &quot;James Shields&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:james@marasbaras.com">james@marasbaras.com</a><br>
</div>&gt;         &lt;/mc/compose?to=<a href="mailto:james@marasbaras.com">james@marasbaras.com</a>&gt;&gt;<br>
<div class="im">&gt;         Subject: Re: [OLPC-Philippines] OLPC deployment model will be<br>
&gt;             interactive<br>
&gt;         To: &quot;OLPC Philippines/Pilipinas grassroots&quot;<br>
&gt;             &lt;<a href="mailto:olpc-philippines@lists.laptop.org">olpc-philippines@lists.laptop.org</a><br>
</div>&gt;         &lt;/mc/compose?to=<a href="mailto:olpc-philippines@lists.laptop.org">olpc-philippines@lists.laptop.org</a>&gt;&gt;<br>
<div class="im">&gt;         Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:MPEIKKIHAEKFDBMDPGJBMEGOEDAC.james@marasbaras.com">MPEIKKIHAEKFDBMDPGJBMEGOEDAC.james@marasbaras.com</a><br>
</div>&gt;         &lt;/mc/compose?to=<a href="mailto:MPEIKKIHAEKFDBMDPGJBMEGOEDAC.james@marasbaras.com">MPEIKKIHAEKFDBMDPGJBMEGOEDAC.james@marasbaras.com</a>&gt;&gt;<br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt;         For OLPC XO, I agree with you entirely.  USB drives are the only<br>
&gt;         way to go<br>
&gt;         for delivery.  Interactive is the ideal solution.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         Since I haven&#39;t been in on the conversations about how you plan<br>
&gt;         to deliver,<br>
&gt;         what will the back up files be used for?  Keeping the results of<br>
&gt;         student<br>
&gt;         homework?  Keeping the content around so that it can be used for<br>
&gt;         the next<br>
&gt;         class?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         I was merely commenting on the possibility of a lower tech<br>
&gt;         solution for<br>
&gt;         schools that cannot get XOs.  If this is outside the scope fo the<br>
&gt;         discussion, sorry for bringing it up.<br>
&gt;         James Shields<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;           -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt;           From: <a href="mailto:olpc-philippines-bounces@lists.laptop.org">olpc-philippines-bounces@lists.laptop.org</a><br>
</div><div class="im">&gt;         &lt;/mc/compose?to=<a href="mailto:olpc-philippines-bounces@lists.laptop.org">olpc-philippines-bounces@lists.laptop.org</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;         [mailto:<a href="mailto:olpc-philippines-bounces@lists.laptop.org">olpc-philippines-bounces@lists.laptop.org</a><br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="h5">&gt;         &lt;/mc/compose?to=<a href="mailto:olpc-philippines-bounces@lists.laptop.org">olpc-philippines-bounces@lists.laptop.org</a>&gt;]On<br>
&gt;         Behalf Of Charles Chen<br>
&gt;           Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 10:57 AM<br>
&gt;           To: OLPC Mailing List<br>
&gt;           Subject: [OLPC-Philippines] OLPC deployment model will be<br>
&gt;         interactive<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                 Hi James,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                 The OLPC XO deployment model I am considering for local<br>
&gt;         school<br>
&gt;         pilots will all be interactive using USBs to contain the content<br>
&gt;         to be used<br>
&gt;         and Sugar as the application to support this. I am not<br>
&gt;         considering providing<br>
&gt;         a static option as this will require a printer and all the related<br>
&gt;         consumables involved to support this. There is also the related<br>
&gt;         support and<br>
&gt;         maintenance responsibilities required from the school if this is<br>
&gt;         provided.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                 I have yet to identify what option will be used to<br>
&gt;         back-up the files<br>
&gt;         used other than using a server for this purpose. I would<br>
&gt;         appreciate your<br>
&gt;         inputs on the matter.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                 Thanks.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                 Charles<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
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