<div dir="ltr">Hi,<br><br>I think everyone is having fun. Hmmmm... I'm still busy with my thesis. <br>I'm developing a Web-based Church Management System. Next Tuesday<br>I can go back to my python and squeak stuff. <br>
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1. Re: OLPC PH next meeting: Oct. 17, 2008 at 8PM PHT.<br>
(Mj Mendoza IV)<br>
2. Re: OLPC PH next meeting: Oct. 17, 2008 at 8PM PHT (Mj Mendoza IV)<br>
3. Opera 9.60, Flash 9 or 10 beta (Jerome Gotangco)<br>
4. Re: Stallman and OLPC (Mj Mendoza IV)<br>
5. Re: Stallman and OLPC (James Shields)<br>
6. Re: Stallman and OLPC (Jerome Gotangco)<br>
7. Re: OLPC PH next meeting: Oct. 17, 2008 at 8PM PHT.<br>
(melch valimento)<br>
8. Re: OLPC PH next meeting: Oct. 17, 2008 at 8PM PHT.<br>
(Jerome Gotangco)<br>
9. Re: Stallman and OLPC (James Shields)<br>
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:59:28 -0700 (PDT)<br>
From: Mj Mendoza IV <<a href="mailto:mjmendoza@ymail.com">mjmendoza@ymail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [OLPC-Philippines] OLPC PH next meeting: Oct. 17, 2008 at<br>
8PM PHT.<br>
To: OLPC Philippines/Pilipinas grassroots<br>
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(Kuya) Melch, :D what if try to make the game playable on either of the Flash Player. As such, Kids with Gnash and who doesn't know how to install Adobe's FP will get to play the game too. So the saving should be via internet (that is if Gnash doesn't support 'shared objects')<br>
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Regards.<br>
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Mj Mendoza IV,<br>
Developer, KonsolScript<br>
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:03:35 -0700 (PDT)<br>
From: Mj Mendoza IV <<a href="mailto:mjmendoza@ymail.com">mjmendoza@ymail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [OLPC-Philippines] OLPC PH next meeting: Oct. 17, 2008 at<br>
8PM PHT<br>
To: OLPC Philippines/Pilipinas grassroots<br>
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> > PS I think I picked up a little tagalog: Pa-test naman = great news?<br>
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> Pa test naman = please test<br>
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Hehe. It's more of: "Can I test it?"<br>
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Regards.<br>
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Mj Mendoza IV,<br>
Developer, KonsolScript<br>
<a href="http://konsolscript.sourceforge.net" target="_blank">http://konsolscript.sourceforge.net</a><br>
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Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 10:19:32 +0800<br>
From: "Jerome Gotangco" <<a href="mailto:jgotangco@gmail.com">jgotangco@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: [OLPC-Philippines] Opera 9.60, Flash 9 or 10 beta<br>
To: "OLPC Philippines/Pilipinas grassroots"<br>
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Hi,<br>
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I tried the latest version of Opera along with Flash 10 beta and it<br>
just doesn't work. Even loading Flash 9 won't work either. It seems<br>
that Opera doesn't look at the mozilla plugins anymore so its not<br>
working upon installation. Most likely I'll have to put the .so<br>
library where Opera places its plugins (I think it installs in /opt,<br>
I'll have to check in a few).<br>
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BTW, Gnash still is utilized by the Browse activity in 767 even if the<br>
official Flash plugin is installed. This is not the behaviour in<br>
previous builds.<br>
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--<br>
Jerome G.<br>
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Website: <a href="http://www.gotangco.com" target="_blank">http://www.gotangco.com</a><br>
Blog: <a href="http://engage.wordpress.com" target="_blank">http://engage.wordpress.com</a><br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:28:15 -0700 (PDT)<br>
From: Mj Mendoza IV <<a href="mailto:mjmendoza@ymail.com">mjmendoza@ymail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [OLPC-Philippines] Stallman and OLPC<br>
To: Jerome Gotangco <<a href="mailto:jgotangco@gmail.com">jgotangco@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: OLPC Philippines/Pilipinas grassroots<br>
<<a href="mailto:olpc-philippines@lists.laptop.org">olpc-philippines@lists.laptop.org</a>><br>
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> Stallman is likening Windows to a drug?<br>
<br>
It was Bill Gates that first spoke of 'addiction' to Windows<br>
(written in Fortune Magazine, July 20, 1998 -- <a href="http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/1998/07/20/245683/index.htm" target="_blank">http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/1998/07/20/245683/index.htm</a>).<br>
<br>
"Although about three million computers get sold every year in China, people don't pay for the software. Someday they will, though. And as long as they're going to steal it, we want them to steal ours. They'll get sort of addicted, and then we'll somehow figure out how to collect sometime in the next decade." -- Bill Gates<br>
<br>
I say, it is an apt comparison because Windows and addictive drugs both get the user hooked. That comparison helps us understand why Microsoft offers such a low price to students and schools -- I saw Microsoft posters in Cyber Zone (SM West) Microsoft Philippines have set Windows XP's price to around 3,000 pesos for "students".<br>
<br>
> but how things are going lately, with Stallman at the forefront, and raiding Apple Stores, etc.<br>
<br>
RMS have always been president of the FSF, but one change in recent years is that they now have a team of clever people that think of ways to campaign against abusive practices such as DRM and Software Patents.<br>
<br>
The campaigns team has made the FSF far more effective, but this effectiveness has brought about a change in how their adversaries respond: they make false statements about what they are doing.<br>
<br>
For instance, when they asked their supporters to go, one by one, to make complaints at Apple Stores, an article appeared on Slashdot misrepresenting the campaign. Many people were misled by that falsehood.<br>
<br>
I am subsribed to DefectiveByDesign.org and it gave accurate information about the protests and have seen how the Slashdot article have misled lots of people to the real motive of the action.<br>
<br>
> they've become fundamentalists looking to cull the infidels.<br>
<br>
If you visit DBD and read about their past protest actions, you'll see they are nonviolent and lawful. This criticism equates their peaceful protests.<br>
<br>
<br>
Yes, I might sound RMS fanatic here but I believe in what RMS believes, and I can't force you to believe what I believed in -- evidences shows it anyway.<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards.<br>
<br>
Mj Mendoza IV,<br>
Developer, KonsolScript<br>
<a href="http://konsolscript.sourceforge.net" target="_blank">http://konsolscript.sourceforge.net</a><br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:59:47 +0800<br>
From: "James Shields" <<a href="mailto:james@marasbaras.com">james@marasbaras.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [OLPC-Philippines] Stallman and OLPC<br>
To: "OLPC Philippines/Pilipinas grassroots"<br>
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Is this Microsoft hatred going to continue? Because, as someone who gets<br>
paid to write software for Windows, it's really getting fucking old. It's<br>
the primary reason I've participated so little.<br>
<br>
Getting people to use your product and want to use it in the future is<br>
called GOOD MARKETING. Yes, getting people hooked is the same tactic that<br>
drug dealers use. Drug dealers use good marketing, too. It works. MANY<br>
companies use this technique. Ever go to the store and get a sample of<br>
food? It's the same technique.<br>
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For the record, I have two XO's here I got through the B1G1 program. I was<br>
planning on trying to help. Honestly, I've been completely put off by the<br>
Linux-loving, Windows-hating zealotry.<br>
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James Shields<br>
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Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 11:28 AM<br>
To: Jerome Gotangco<br>
Cc: OLPC Philippines/Pilipinas grassroots<br>
Subject: Re: [OLPC-Philippines] Stallman and OLPC<br>
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> Stallman is likening Windows to a drug?<br>
<br>
It was Bill Gates that first spoke of 'addiction' to Windows<br>
(written in Fortune Magazine, July 20, 1998 --<br>
<a href="http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/1998/07/20/245683/index.htm" target="_blank">http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/1998/07/20/245683/ind<br>
ex.htm</a>).<br>
<br>
"Although about three million computers get sold every year in China, people<br>
don't pay for the software. Someday they will, though. And as long as<br>
they're going to steal it, we want them to steal ours. They'll get sort of<br>
addicted, and then we'll somehow figure out how to collect sometime in the<br>
next decade." -- Bill Gates<br>
<br>
I say, it is an apt comparison because Windows and addictive drugs both get<br>
the user hooked. That comparison helps us understand why Microsoft offers<br>
such a low price to students and schools -- I saw Microsoft posters in Cyber<br>
Zone (SM West) Microsoft Philippines have set Windows XP's price to around<br>
3,000 pesos for "students".<br>
<br>
> but how things are going lately, with Stallman at the forefront, and<br>
raiding Apple Stores, etc.<br>
<br>
RMS have always been president of the FSF, but one change in recent years is<br>
that they now have a team of clever people that think of ways to campaign<br>
against abusive practices such as DRM and Software Patents.<br>
<br>
The campaigns team has made the FSF far more effective, but this<br>
effectiveness has brought about a change in how their adversaries respond:<br>
they make false statements about what they are doing.<br>
<br>
For instance, when they asked their supporters to go, one by one, to make<br>
complaints at Apple Stores, an article appeared on Slashdot misrepresenting<br>
the campaign. Many people were misled by that falsehood.<br>
<br>
I am subsribed to DefectiveByDesign.org and it gave accurate information<br>
about the protests and have seen how the Slashdot article have misled lots<br>
of people to the real motive of the action.<br>
<br>
> they've become fundamentalists looking to cull the infidels.<br>
<br>
If you visit DBD and read about their past protest actions, you'll see they<br>
are nonviolent and lawful. This criticism equates their peaceful protests.<br>
<br>
<br>
Yes, I might sound RMS fanatic here but I believe in what RMS believes, and<br>
I can't force you to believe what I believed in -- evidences shows it<br>
anyway.<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards.<br>
<br>
Mj Mendoza IV,<br>
Developer, KonsolScript<br>
<a href="http://konsolscript.sourceforge.net" target="_blank">http://konsolscript.sourceforge.net</a><br>
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Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 13:02:28 +0800<br>
From: "Jerome Gotangco" <<a href="mailto:jgotangco@gmail.com">jgotangco@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [OLPC-Philippines] Stallman and OLPC<br>
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On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Mj Mendoza IV <<a href="mailto:mjmendoza@ymail.com">mjmendoza@ymail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Yes, I might sound RMS fanatic here but I believe in what RMS believes, and I can't force you to believe what I believed in -- evidences shows it anyway.<br>
<br>
Then going forward, let's do something here, as these threads are<br>
needless and they digging on past events and philosophies don't get<br>
any work done - they are a good read though :-)<br>
<br>
1.) Get yourself to use free software more frequently if not<br>
exclusively and see how the current education system can benefit to<br>
it. We should basically practice what we preach. There has been a<br>
current thread on -devel regarding using Sugar exclusively to be able<br>
to see areas of improvement that can be done from development early<br>
before deployment happens. This is basically what we call "eating your<br>
own dog food."<br>
<br>
2.) OLPC has not done anything official regarding Windows on the XO-1<br>
machine, and the upcoming G1G1v2 actually will have the 8.2.0 release<br>
(or is it 8.2.1, can't recall) which is expected to come out next<br>
week. It's possible to test this with any computer now and testing and<br>
reporting back is really encouraged.<br>
<br>
3.) Gnash needs a lot of love (and testing) and it supports Ogg.<br>
Vorbis works. I'm not sure with Theora and Speex. Then let's see what<br>
works with Gnash and what does not and submit it upstream.<br>
<br>
4.) Add more here...<br>
<br>
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--<br>
Jerome G.<br>
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Website: <a href="http://www.gotangco.com" target="_blank">http://www.gotangco.com</a><br>
Blog: <a href="http://engage.wordpress.com" target="_blank">http://engage.wordpress.com</a><br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:37:41 -0700 (PDT)<br>
From: melch valimento <<a href="mailto:melch_man@yahoo.com">melch_man@yahoo.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [OLPC-Philippines] OLPC PH next meeting: Oct. 17, 2008 at<br>
8PM PHT.<br>
To: <a href="mailto:mjmendoza@ymail.com">mjmendoza@ymail.com</a>, OLPC Philippines/Pilipinas grassroots<br>
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Hi MJ,<br>
<br>
Kuya ka diyan :P<br>
(Kuya means older brother...but I'm too young for that...young at heart, AHAHAHAH)<br>
<br>
"make the game playable on either of the Flash Player" - yup, that's the idea<br>
<br>
On the "Windows bickering" (and some even "proprietary software bickering") - let's just concentrate on the task at hand :) I joined OLPC because I'd like to create a game that could entertain and hopefully help educate our target audience (the kids). We're beginning to sound like we're the ones who wants to use this laptop eventually... or just help in its development to prove a point, hehe ;)<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Melch<br>
<br>
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Mj Mendoza IV <<a href="mailto:mjmendoza@ymail.com">mjmendoza@ymail.com</a>> wrote: (Kuya) Melch, :D what if try to make the game playable on either of the Flash Player. As such, Kids with Gnash and who doesn't know how to install Adobe's FP will get to play the game too. So the saving should be via internet (that is if Gnash doesn't support 'shared objects')<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards.<br>
<br>
Mj Mendoza IV,<br>
Developer, KonsolScript<br>
<a href="http://konsolscript.sourceforge.net" target="_blank">http://konsolscript.sourceforge.net</a><br>
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Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 13:46:18 +0800<br>
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2008/10/11 melch valimento <<a href="mailto:melch_man@yahoo.com">melch_man@yahoo.com</a>>:<br>
> On the "Windows bickering" (and some even "proprietary software bickering")<br>
> - let's just concentrate on the task at hand :) I joined OLPC because I'd<br>
> like to create a game that could entertain and hopefully help educate our<br>
> target audience (the kids). We're beginning to sound like we're the ones who<br>
> wants to use this laptop eventually... or just help in its development to<br>
> prove a point, hehe ;)<br>
<br>
+1<br>
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--<br>
Jerome G.<br>
<br>
Website: <a href="http://www.gotangco.com" target="_blank">http://www.gotangco.com</a><br>
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Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 14:03:01 +0800<br>
From: "James Shields" <<a href="mailto:james@marasbaras.com">james@marasbaras.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [OLPC-Philippines] Stallman and OLPC<br>
To: "OLPC Philippines/Pilipinas grassroots"<br>
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1. Based on what I've been reading here, elsewhere, and what I've seen in<br>
the schools (I belong to the local Rotary club and we've been taking milk,<br>
books, and supplies to the poorer barangays here) ... what they need is<br>
content, not software. Is there anyone among us who is a content generator?<br>
I'm a developer, I can mush things around and make them somewhat pretty,<br>
although I'm not designer.<br>
<br>
On a side note, I do not think we should be preaching. It's what turns me<br>
off about this project and will turn off others.<br>
<br>
We should be delivering content and software they can use at no cost.<br>
Beyond that, we should just shut up. Otherwise, we'll be labeled FOSS<br>
zealots and a lot of doors will close.<br>
<br>
2. I have two the B1G1v1 machines. It's my understanding that I cannot run<br>
Windows XP on them. Am I wrong? I hope so.<br>
<br>
3. I skipped a few e-mails when you folks were discussing Gnash vs. Flash.<br>
Was it decided that Adobe's Flash license was too restrictive to use?<br>
<br>
4. Last I looked, Sugar did not run natively on WinXP. Is that still the<br>
case? Is there any desire for Sugar to have a native XP version?<br>
<br>
James Shields<br>
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[mailto:<a href="mailto:olpc-philippines-bounces@lists.laptop.org">olpc-philippines-bounces@lists.laptop.org</a>]On Behalf Of Jerome<br>
Gotangco<br>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 1:02 PM<br>
To: OLPC Philippines/Pilipinas grassroots<br>
Subject: Re: [OLPC-Philippines] Stallman and OLPC<br>
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On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Mj Mendoza IV <<a href="mailto:mjmendoza@ymail.com">mjmendoza@ymail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Yes, I might sound RMS fanatic here but I believe in what RMS believes,<br>
and I can't force you to believe what I believed in -- evidences shows it<br>
anyway.<br>
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Then going forward, let's do something here, as these threads are<br>
needless and they digging on past events and philosophies don't get<br>
any work done - they are a good read though :-)<br>
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1.) Get yourself to use free software more frequently if not<br>
exclusively and see how the current education system can benefit to<br>
it. We should basically practice what we preach. There has been a<br>
current thread on -devel regarding using Sugar exclusively to be able<br>
to see areas of improvement that can be done from development early<br>
before deployment happens. This is basically what we call "eating your<br>
own dog food."<br>
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2.) OLPC has not done anything official regarding Windows on the XO-1<br>
machine, and the upcoming G1G1v2 actually will have the 8.2.0 release<br>
(or is it 8.2.1, can't recall) which is expected to come out next<br>
week. It's possible to test this with any computer now and testing and<br>
reporting back is really encouraged.<br>
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3.) Gnash needs a lot of love (and testing) and it supports Ogg.<br>
Vorbis works. I'm not sure with Theora and Speex. Then let's see what<br>
works with Gnash and what does not and submit it upstream.<br>
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4.) Add more here...<br>
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Jerome G.<br>
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