On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Listen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:olpc@goct.net" target="_blank">olpc@goct.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Thank You so much for your help with that Steve!<br>
Now I have another similar problem, and I have been wondering about
this for awhile anyways. <br>
We just updated to 767, and now we get a message when trying to open
some programs that says " Journal is Full".</div></blockquote><div><br>Yup. I've seen that, too. My son loves to make videos...<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">So we went in the journal and deleted every entry. But when I hold the
mouse over the journal icon it says there is only 79 MB free. </div></blockquote><div><br>That's a bit different from mine, but reasonable, I think. If you have that with all journal entries removed, you are likely right: there's some file (such as a downloaded PDF or a package file) hanging around somewhere the Journal doesn't know about.<br>
<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">So how can we "explore" the files that are on the XO but not in the
journal?<br>
There must be other temp or junk files on the xo that are hidden
somewhere. </div></blockquote><div><br>A simple (and safe) way to explore the XO filesystem is to use the Browse activity.<br>Enter this URL in Browse:<br> file://localhost/<br>or<br> file:///<br> <br>This will let you explore the XO filesystem through the Browse activity, under the hood of the XO.<br>
You won't be able to delete anything, and there are a lot of files which will be meaningless to Browse, but as long as you are careful not to download too much, (essentially, copying from one part of the filesystem to another) you shouldn't hurt anything.<br>
<br>To actually delete anything, you'd need to use the Terminal activity, or the Console.<br>Of course, knowing what is safe to delete from a Linux filesystem is a skill worth a six figure salary. ;-) I can't claim to know that much. <br>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Is there a way to recover some disk space?</div></blockquote><div> <br>Some background first.<br><br>If you upgraded to 767 by connecting to the Internet and using olpc-update, then you likely have *two* copies of the operating system on the flash; the current one (767) and the prior one (703? 656?) as well. This is done in case the new release screws something up; you can hold the circle key on the gamepad at startup and boot into the older image. A nice safety feature, but it costs you storage.<br>
<br>Removing that older image will buy you lots of space, but at the expense of not being able to do an emergency boot into the old image.<br><br>The smart solution is to have a 1 Gb USB Storage device with a clean install image (downloaded from <a href="http://laptop.org">laptop.org</a>) and keep it tucked safely away.<br>
You can then use this to re-install the base XO software if you ever feel the need. <br><br>Additionally, if you do a clean install of the software, the installation process "wipes the disk": all Journal entries are removed, (let me say that again: ALL JOURNAL ENTRIES WILL BE LOST) any other files you might have downloaded outside the context of the Journal (such as add-on packages, Flash, Activities, etc.) are deleted, and the prior XO image is also removed. The software is returned to 'factory new' state.<br>
<br>More info on the wiki:<br>- <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Clean-install_procedure#Official_releases_and_candidate_builds">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Clean-install_procedure#Official_releases_and_candidate_builds</a><br>
<br>This is a drastic procedure. I wouldn't recommend it for people making typical use of an XO; but if you're running out of space consistently, then you're likely not a typical user.<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Thank You so much for your help<br>
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<pre>I've heard a few reports of "journal disappeared" before.
Essentially, if the internal Flash disk fills-up, there isn't enough
room for the XO to start-up properly.
If you were downloading a lot of largish PDF this could be an explanation.
IIRC this was a bug in the 650 release which was partially corrected
in the 656 release.
The first thing to try: hold-down the "circle" key on the game pad
while you turn the XO on.
If there is a prior 'back-up' install available, this will boot the XO
into the backup. You should be able to delete some files from there.
More info here:
- <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Startup_Diagnosis" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Startup_Diagnosis</a>
If that doesn't work, you may be able to use console to delete some of
the offending files.
Access the console by pressing the CTRL key (solid diamond) the ALT
key (open diamond) and the Neighborhood (8 dots in a circle) key.
This requires knowledge of the Linux console, so not for the unskilled.
- <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Terminal_Activity#The_Console" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Terminal_Activity#The_Console</a>
The third option is to reinstall the operating system from a USB disk
or an SD memory card.
Details are available here:
- <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Secure_Upgrade" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Secure_Upgrade</a>
The Fourth option is to check the list of Community Repair centers to
see if one is in your area. Some repair centers occasionally run
repair clinics where trained volunteers can get a look at exactly
what's going on with your particular XO and make a much more detailed
diagnosis.
- <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Directory_of_repair_centers" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Directory_of_repair_centers</a>
It doesn't sound like a fatal problem, whatever it is.
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Listen <a href="mailto:olpc@goct.net" target="_blank"><olpc@goct.net></a> wrote:
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<pre>Could you please direct me on where to get help with my daughter's xo?
We have been using it since November and just the other day, the journal
stopped coming up when I turn it on! Now I don't know how to get to the
files(.pdf) that I was reading.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Letting Love Flow
Listen
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