[Olpc-open] [IAEP] Dailymotion, Ogg video, and Sugar

Sean DALY sdaly.be at gmail.com
Sun May 31 11:22:33 EDT 2009


I had the opportunity to interview Vint Cerf at Groklaw and asked him
about that (http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080303140032154).
Google doesn't even index Ogg container metadata; this is not
encouraging, as indexing media files is a real challenge and pulling
out metadat is the easiest way to do that.

Adobe Flash 10 supports Ogg Speex, a lossy audio codec optimized for
speech (http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/features/). I
understand their motivation was compatibility with VoIP applications.
I don't know if YouTube accepts the full set of Flash 10 codecs, I
don't believe so.

I think Google / YouTube will make the minor effort necessary when
there is competition, i.e. widely viewed Dailymotion content absent
from YouTube. Google Video search indexes Dailymotion video, so Google
will be well aware as that occurs.

Sean.



On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 16:42, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 16:25, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 16:20, Lucian Branescu
>>>> <lucian.branescu at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Youtube also has a demo of <video> usage. http://youtube.com/html5
>>>>
>>>> I heard it's using non-free codecs, it isn't?
>>>
>>> Looks like that to me:
>>>
>>> this works: http://www.double.co.nz/video_test/test4.html
>>> this doesn't: http://youtube.com/html5
>>>
>>> In Soas-2. Let's hope that google works fast and imitates dailymotion soon.
>>
>> I filed a bug report about 18 months ago re OGG support on Youtube...
>> maybe the competition will urge them to move more quickly on this.
>
> I have the impression that Google would move forward on this because
> it's "the right thing to do", rather than because of fear to lose
> market share. Though maybe what would get them moving faster would be
> the public opinion thinking their competition are doing the right
> thing and they aren't yet.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tomeu
>
>> -walter
>>
>> --
>> Walter Bender
>> Sugar Labs
>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>>
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