[Olpc-open] Whose choice? ;-)
Ed Montgomery
edm at rocketmail.com
Wed Dec 5 12:12:51 EST 2007
--- Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de> wrote:
> On Dec 5, 2007, at 14:15 , Ed Montgomery wrote:
>
> > Squeak, eh? :-) Now you have jumped from
> 'software'
> > to programming language. I.e. you have jumped
> from OS
> > preference to programming language preference.
>
> Ed, sorry, but this just shows that you don't have a
> clue about
> Squeak or Etoys.
>
> It's not just a programming language, it is a full
> graphical
> operating system (it runs on bare hardware in fact)
> just as the early
> Smalltalks did.
>
Actually, it shows that you don't have a clue. it is
indeed a programming language used to PRODUCE a
graphical operating system (like many others). And I
am certainly aware of Etoys, have played with it, etc.
I still prefer Python :-). But I am certainly in
favour of letting children explore both of these
languages (and MORE! :-) and letting them make their
own choices, rather than having some academics declare
that they have 'the answer', based on 'studies', etc.
> If you actually looked at the links provided by
> Yoshiki, you might
> have noticed. In particular, how such a system
> encourages exploration
> and learning.
>
Incidentally, I DID read them. And I have used a wide
variety of languages over decades to encourage
exploration and learning. :-) Squeak does not have a
monopoly. :-)
I like Sugar. I'm so-so on Squeak. I prefer Python.
To each his own. Let each kid (or any user) decide
which they prefer, is my REAL preference! :-)
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