Sorry Tim, but I disagree with you and I chose not to write that last email on a public list for a reason. Now it is in public I will explain. Please remember that emails lack the emotion that people feel and can easily be misinterpreted - I will assume you did not mean the tone that I read in your email. <div>
<br><div>The testing mailing list is EXACTLY where ALL test requests should be discussed - that is the purpose in having the testing mailing list. I have just met around 125 people and can confirm that loads of these people follow the testing mailing list and learn from what is posted there, there were huge numbers of thank you's expressed because of what is written on that mailing list. <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_New_Zealand/Test_Requests" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_New_Zealand/Test_Requests</a> is a New Zealand wiki page, not a global page that all of olpc and Sugarlabs looks at. We are perfectly capable of adding things to our wiki page for us to manage our own tests but I am not comfortable with us asking thousands of volunteers to use this wiki page which is for our own management. </div>
<div><br></div><div><div>I think the years of effort and commitment I have put into olpc and Sugarlabs doesn't make me a likely candidate for undermining anything but I am a realistic and know the reality is that if we want to interact with developers we go to them, and if we want to interact with deployments we go to them, not the other way around. We are all busy and we do need a system that works, but we are not there yet, which means we do what is required to ensure we meet the global community needs. </div>
<div><br></div><div>We can discuss this further and should, with the benefits of children who use Sugar as our central focus point. </div><div><br></div><div>Tabitha<br><div><br></div><div><br clear="all"><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 26 October 2010 11:39, Tim McNamara <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mcnamara.tim@gmail.com">mcnamara.tim@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
STRONG -1<div><br></div><div>This completely undermines the system Tabitha - if you object to its use, then use a public forum to gain consensus!.</div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 4:01 AM, Tabitha Roder <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tabitha@tabitha.net.nz" target="_blank">tabitha@tabitha.net.nz</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I spoke with Jerry about his test requests and asked him to in future email them to testing mailing list and olpc-nz mailing list. That way we know when he has a new test request and it also lets the rest of the planet know (which keeps everyone informed and gives the opportunity to learn and share knowledge together).<div>
<br clear="all"><font color="#888888">Tabitha</font></div><div><div></div><div><div><br></div><div><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 26 October 2010 02:48, Tim McNamara <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mcnamara.tim@gmail.com" target="_blank">mcnamara.tim@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Sridhar,<div><br></div><div>Sounds good. Would you please be able to add details in our test request page[1]? The main question is whether you you have any test cases that you would like covered, or just general testing.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br><div>Tim</div><div><br>[1] <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_New_Zealand/Test_Requests" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_New_Zealand/Test_Requests</a><div><div></div><div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sridhar@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">sridhar@laptop.org.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hey guys,<br>
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Would anyone be interested in testing OLPC Australia's latest build?<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Sridhar<br>
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From: Jerry Vonau <<a href="mailto:jvonau@shaw.ca" target="_blank">jvonau@shaw.ca</a>><br>
Date: 22 October 2010 10:39<br>
Subject: [OLPC-AU] New XO-1.5 image for testing<br>
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Hi All:<br>
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The latest testing image is at:<br>
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<a href="http://download.laptop.org.au/XO/F11/10.1.2/testing.363/" target="_blank">http://download.laptop.org.au/XO/F11/10.1.2/testing.363/</a><br>
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Changes since 361:<br>
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-olpc-powerd-29-1<br>
-firmware bumped to q3a50<br>
-added backup-4.xo<br>
-added restore-3.xo<br>
-switched to using Adobe's flash rpm offline, as per agreement.<br>
-added Adobe's copyright credit to "about my computer"<br>
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Thanks for testing,<br>
<br>
Jerry<br>
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