We're looking for some help on the Turkey keyboard layout. Attached is an image of the 'Q' layout for Turkey. Can anyone verify the details of this layout? <br><br>Bernie, Arjun,<br>Can either of you create this alternate Turkey keyboard wiki page and help figure out what needs to be done for SW support?<br>
<br>Thanks,<br>Kim<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Edward Cherlin <<a href="mailto:echerlin@gmail.com">echerlin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
2008/4/21 Kim Quirk <<a href="mailto:kim@laptop.org">kim@laptop.org</a>>:<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d">> Thanks Walter,<br>
> Does this mean you have approved Uzbec, Pashto, French Canadian, and Kazakh?<br>
<br>
</div>We don't have localization projects for Uzbek or Kazakh. Should we start them?<br>
<br>
Looking at the table, I also see Armenian, for which there is no<br>
localization. Should we start it?<br>
<br>
Also, the table specifies a Russian Cyrillic keyboard for Ukrainian,<br>
which is a serious error.<br>
<br>
"Note that many langauge/region variants can share a common keyboard,<br>
e.g., Russian (ru_RU) and Ukrainian (uk_UA) both use the Cyrillic<br>
keyboard, but will need different SKUs to accommodate the different<br>
language settings on the laptop."<br>
<br>
Not so. Ukrainian requires the letters<br>
<br>
Ї U+0407<br>
ї U+0457<br>
Ґ U+0490<br>
ґ U+0491<br>
<br>
which don't occur in Russian. See the ua keyboard file.<br>
<br>
> I am aware of the need for final approval of Italian, Khmer, and Nepali.<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d">> Quanta is sending these keyboards to OLPC this week.<br>
><br>
> In the past when Quanta sends a first article for approval, do we need to<br>
> match that up against the design from the wiki page? Or do you recommend<br>
> some other step(s) for final approval?<br>
<br>
</div>How about consulting with national standards bodies and Unicode? I can<br>
put you in touch with people who know way more about these issues than<br>
anybody here.<br>
<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Kim<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Walter Bender <<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
> > Actually, I don't recall ever approving a Turkish keyboard... The rest<br>
> > of the table seems up to date as far as I know. I had been in close<br>
> > contact with several groups in Turkey about 12 months ago and at the<br>
> > time, they were advocating the F layout. It would certainly be easy<br>
> > enough to do a Q layout.<br>
> ><br>
> > -walter<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Kim Quirk <<a href="mailto:kim@laptop.org">kim@laptop.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> > > Walter,<br>
> > > Can you provide the state of the keyboards that have no note in the<br>
> table:<br>
> > > <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Mfg-data" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Mfg-data</a><br>
> > ><br>
> > > I have been assuming that this is the table that is most up to date. If<br>
> > > there is no note in saying 'not yet approved', does that mean they have<br>
> been<br>
> > > through the entire approval cycle? Did you get a physical sample of each<br>
> of<br>
> > > these?<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Thanks,<br>
> > > Kim<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Bernie Innocenti <<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org">bernie@codewiz.org</a>><br>
> > > wrote:<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > [Sorry for this flood of Turkish related topics. It's only<br>
> > > > because I'm working from Turkey -- Captain Obvious]<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > There seem to be two different keyboard layouts for Tukey,<br>
> > > > the F layout and the Q layout, named after the leftmost key<br>
> > > > of the top row.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > >From our wiki and our X11 keyboard file, we seem to have<br>
> > > > picked the F layout:<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Turkey_Keyboard" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Turkey_Keyboard</a><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > But here everybody is telling me that the Q layout is the most<br>
> > > > widely used and the favorite. All the computers I see around<br>
> > > > me use this layout.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Are we still in time to change the this in production?<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > This seems to be yet another case where a country-specific<br>
> > > > build would be absolutely required, regardless of our planned<br>
> > > > release cycle. Obviously we'll get more and more of these<br>
> > > > cases as we deploy to a wider range of countries. So this<br>
> > > > seems like a good time to discuss how to have per-country<br>
> > > > builds released in parallel with ease.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > --<br>
> > > > \___/<br>
> > > > |___| Bernie Innocenti - <a href="http://www.codewiz.org/" target="_blank">http://www.codewiz.org/</a><br>
> > > > \___\ CTO OLPC Europe - <a href="http://www.laptop.org/" target="_blank">http://www.laptop.org/</a><br>
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