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Hi Christoph and SJ, and all...<div><br></div><div>What about a modified dichotomous key that a new visitor could go through to find what they were looking for? I say "modified" because it would probably want to begin with more than 2 choices. So give them 4 or 5 (e.g. volunteering, getting sugar, Activities, etc) and let them choose one, then go from there.</div><div><br></div><div>Caryl<br><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 02:23:43 +0100<br>From: e0425826@student.tuwien.ac.at<br>To: meta.sj@gmail.com<br>CC: library@lists.laptop.org; giulia@laptop.org; support-gang@lists.laptop.org<br>Subject: Re: [support-gang] [OLPC library] olpc-open and new ideas for olpc projects<br><br>Excellent, the flow already feels a bit smoother... :-)<div><br></div><div>Brielfy looking at the regional groups page it seems like we should try to organize a cleanup effort as a number of pages, entries, and links seem outdated or non-existant. e.g. the OLPC Bulgaria URL doesn't work anymore and the corresponding page (<a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Bulgaria" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Bulgaria</a>) still lists Aaron and Tano as contacts for "OLPC Europe" (those were the days!). However I'm not sure whether deleting the entry from the list is really the best way forward here as I feel that ideally any cleanup should be accompanied by an outreach effort to engage and re-engage community members.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Good night,</div><div>Christoph<br><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Samuel Klein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:meta.sj@gmail.com">meta.sj@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Good ideas. I updated a number of those pages; I could use help updating the regional groups page: <br><a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Regional_groups" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Regional_groups</a><br>
<br>Further suggestions or cleanup ideas for the Community page welcome.<span class="ecxHOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>S</font></span><div class="ecxHOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br><br><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Christoph Derndorfer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:e0425826@student.tuwien.ac.at">e0425826@student.tuwien.ac.at</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Hi SJ,<div><br></div><div>this sounds like a good idea though for it to work well the mailing list(s) would have to be easily accessible via <a href="http://laptop.org" target="_blank">laptop.org</a>.</div><div><br></div>
<div>At the moment you need to go through <a href="http://laptop.org" target="_blank">laptop.org</a> -> about -> contact us to reach <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC%3aContact_us" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC:Contact_us</a> which points to the *@<a href="http://laptop.org" target="_blank">laptop.org</a> addresses going into RT and only below mentions the mailing lists. That's a lot of links to click for the uninitiated IMHO.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Similarly the take action page on <a href="http://laptop.org" target="_blank">laptop.org</a> (<a href="http://one.laptop.org/action/donate" target="_blank">http://one.laptop.org/action/donate</a>) emphasizes donations by this being the first tab one lands on. Even once you get to the "get involved" tab you're first landing on the Intern page which (a) probably isn't all that interesting to the majority of potential contributors and (b) leads to what looks like a very old page with 2009 / 2010 information (<a href="http://laptop.org/en/interns/" target="_blank">http://laptop.org/en/interns/</a>).</div>
<div><br></div><div>I tend to believe that the "connect with local volunteers" page should be featured much more prominently on the "take action" site, preferably as the number one landing page. Plus from there people should be guided towards <a href="http://one.laptop.org/community" target="_blank">http://one.laptop.org/community</a> rather than the continent-based wiki entry (btw, I just noticed that <a href="http://one.laptop.org/action/volunteer#/connect-local-volunteers" target="_blank">http://one.laptop.org/action/volunteer#/connect-local-volunteers</a> is missing Europe;-). Then in turn we should make sure that <a href="http://one.laptop.org/community" target="_blank">http://one.laptop.org/community</a> is up-to-date and doesn't contain broken links (like the OLPC Poland one!). Plus I think linking to <a href="http://olpcmap.net" target="_blank">olpcmap.net</a> from there would also be a good idea.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I guess what I'm trying to say is that there currently are way too many steps that people have to jump through. Encouraging people to move to mailing lists such as olpc-open is really only one small step of what should be a much larger effort to make OLPC more accessible to new contributors.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Just my 2 eurocents;-)</div><div><br></div><div>Christoph<br><div><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote"><div><div>On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Samuel Klein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:meta.sj@gmail.com">meta.sj@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex"><div><div>A number of organizations and people are asking how they can work with OLPC, driven by the recent publicity about the xo-3 and xo-1.75 . I'm directing some of them to the olpc-open list. Please help respond to newbies joining the list and sharing their ideas; many have partnership ideas or educational materials to share. (We used to send more such people to the private 'volunteer' and 'content' RT queues, but as there is rarely anything inherently private about the requests, so let's try something more open this time around. It's been working quite well for Khan Academy, which uses only public google grops/lists for such things.<br>
<br>Giulia is the right person to triage serious business development ideas; many of them just need to be introduced to the right wiki / list / existing project or local project online.<br><br>SJ<span><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>-- <br>Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj <a target="_blank">+1 617 529 4266</a><br>
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