<div dir="ltr">On the other hand, there is at least one list that *does* make sense on the wiki and is well managed tool. And that's Sayamindu's list on the [[Pootle]] page. This list I will not touch.<br><br>But from the rest of everyone's resounding lack of response, I declare this a consensus and will now cleanse the wiki of these monstrosities.<br>
<br>-Seth<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Edward Cherlin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:echerlin@gmail.com">echerlin@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:54 PM, FFM <<a href="mailto:ffm@laptop.org">ffm@laptop.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 04:23:04PM -0400, Seth Woodworth wrote:<br>
>> There are few policies that we've been implementing from time to time on the<br>
>> wiki that I would like to see go away. It's my belief that these policies<br>
>> are hard to maintain, ill-scalable, and unsupportable as-is. I suggest that<br>
>> we retire the following:<br>
>><br>
>> == Sign up lists ==<br>
>> * Lists where people are encouraged to sign up to do a task or contribute to<br>
>> a given project.<br>
>><br>
>> There are several projects and pages that suggest that you sign-up to help<br>
>> do '$variable'. There are several problems with this idea.<br>
>><br>
>> There is no automatic mechanism in place to communicate to users who sign up<br>
>> on a list. If I wanted to send a message to this list, I would have to wade<br>
>> through User_talk: pages and communicate with each person individually each<br>
>> time I want to make an announcement. This is compounded by the fact that<br>
>> many users don't sign the page or add a link to their user page, and merely<br>
>> type their names.<br>
<br>
</div>+1<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
> We can say "sign with ~~~~".<br>
<br>
</div>We need a registration page for each of these tasks, one that requires<br>
entry of contact information in a way that lets an administrator send<br>
mail to every participant. If we allow people to sign up for different<br>
roles in a task, we need to have ways for administrators to query a<br>
database for people of different roles. I want to be able (just as an<br>
example) to send something to all Opportunistic Localizers for Kreyol<br>
without extensive manual maintenance and frequent dead ends.<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
>> I feel that a projects should have open task lists or joining a list or some<br>
>> other mechanism than a sign up list. Alternatively, if someone were to<br>
>> create a bot or tool that makes this ad-hoc list broadcasting function<br>
>> (including making sure people are notified via email), I would be ecstatic.<br>
><br>
</div>> Such bots are in existence on the english wikipedia, they are also open source.<br>
<br>
Link?<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
> The issue is that people don't know how easy it is to start a lists.l.o mailing<br>
> list, we need to make that more obvious. That could fix much of this issue.<br>
<br>
</div>I would like to see lists right away supporting localizers, teachers,<br>
students, and OLPC-<country> in each supported language, starting with<br>
Spanish (where we have OLPC-Sur), French, Portuguese, Arabic, and<br>
other languages of multiple target countries. Also languages mainly of<br>
single target countries (Khmer, Kreyol, Kinyarwanda, Amharic, Pashto,<br>
Dari...) but I leave that question to the speakers of those languages.<br>
<br>
> -FFM<br>
><br>
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