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</div>Not until you provide a page with an alternative clearly explained.</blockquote><div><br>I will remove/archive lists and do my best to provide alternatives.<br><br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
> -Seth<br><div><div class="Wj3C7c">
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> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Edward Cherlin <<a href="mailto:echerlin@gmail.com">echerlin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:54 PM, FFM <<a href="mailto:ffm@laptop.org">ffm@laptop.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 04:23:04PM -0400, Seth Woodworth wrote:<br>
>> >> There are few policies that we've been implementing from time to time<br>
>> >> on the<br>
>> >> wiki that I would like to see go away. It's my belief that these<br>
>> >> policies<br>
>> >> are hard to maintain, ill-scalable, and unsupportable as-is. I suggest<br>
>> >> that<br>
>> >> we retire the following:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> == Sign up lists ==<br>
>> >> * Lists where people are encouraged to sign up to do a task or<br>
>> >> contribute to<br>
>> >> a given project.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> There are several projects and pages that suggest that you sign-up to<br>
>> >> help<br>
>> >> do '$variable'. There are several problems with this idea.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> There is no automatic mechanism in place to communicate to users who<br>
>> >> sign up<br>
>> >> on a list. If I wanted to send a message to this list, I would have to<br>
>> >> wade<br>
>> >> through User_talk: pages and communicate with each person individually<br>
>> >> each<br>
>> >> time I want to make an announcement. This is compounded by the fact<br>
>> >> that<br>
>> >> many users don't sign the page or add a link to their user page, and<br>
>> >> merely<br>
>> >> type their names.<br>
>><br>
>> +1<br>
>><br>
>> > We can say "sign with ~~~~".<br>
>><br>
>> We need a registration page for each of these tasks, one that requires<br>
>> entry of contact information in a way that lets an administrator send<br>
>> mail to every participant. If we allow people to sign up for different<br>
>> roles in a task, we need to have ways for administrators to query a<br>
>> database for people of different roles. I want to be able (just as an<br>
>> example) to send something to all Opportunistic Localizers for Kreyol<br>
>> without extensive manual maintenance and frequent dead ends.<br>
>><br>
>> >> I feel that a projects should have open task lists or joining a list or<br>
>> >> some<br>
>> >> other mechanism than a sign up list. Alternatively, if someone were to<br>
>> >> create a bot or tool that makes this ad-hoc list broadcasting function<br>
>> >> (including making sure people are notified via email), I would be<br>
>> >> ecstatic.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Such bots are in existence on the english wikipedia, they are also open<br>
>> > source.<br>
>><br>
>> Link?<br>
>><br>
>> > The issue is that people don't know how easy it is to start a lists.l.o<br>
>> > mailing<br>
>> > list, we need to make that more obvious. That could fix much of this<br>
>> > issue.<br>
>><br>
>> I would like to see lists right away supporting localizers, teachers,<br>
>> students, and OLPC-<country> in each supported language, starting with<br>
>> Spanish (where we have OLPC-Sur), French, Portuguese, Arabic, and<br>
>> other languages of multiple target countries. Also languages mainly of<br>
>> single target countries (Khmer, Kreyol, Kinyarwanda, Amharic, Pashto,<br>
>> Dari...) but I leave that question to the speakers of those languages.<br>
>><br>
>> > -FFM<br>
>> ><br>
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>> ><br>
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>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Silent Thunder [默雷/शब्दगर्ज] is my name,<br>
>> And Children are my nation.<br>
>> The whole world is my dwelling place,<br>
>> And Truth my destination.<br>
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<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">Silent Thunder [默雷/शब्दगर्ज] is my name,<br>
And Children are my nation.<br>
The whole world is my dwelling place,<br>
And Truth my destination.<br>
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