[OLPC library] process

Walter Bender walter.bender at gmail.com
Thu Sep 4 08:43:52 EDT 2008


Let me know what channel you choose. i'll try to join you.

(We'd talked about an include that we could per throughout the Sugar
manual that highlights the XO keyboard options... something we just
didn't get arpund to in Austin. But it seems easier and more
sustainable than a fork.)

-walter

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:40 AM, adam hyde <adam at flossmanuals.net> wrote:
> hey Seth,
>
> want to skype/irc?
>
> adam
>
>
> On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 23:29 -0400, Seth Woodworth wrote:
>> Adam,
>>
>> I think that we're making a lot of progress here.  Overall I am
>> amazingly happy with the quality of the documentation.  I'm working
>> with our dev team going over sections, smoothing out some of the
>> technicalities.  I'm also working with a few other volunteers to
>> really polish the text and formatting of some of the final sections.
>> It's really coming together.  We're hoping to have our shipable-html
>> by Saturday.
>>
>> But if we're going to get there we're going to need your help.  The
>> next 50+ hours around here are going to be crunch time.  We're
>> committed to finishing our end of the work by the end of the week.
>> We've been running into some issues, but I think we have a way to
>> smooth things out.
>>
>> In the short term, we're having some issues in the extreme separation
>> of the XO hardware manual and the Sugar software manual.  The problem
>> is that the chapters, as written, don't mix into a single whole
>> manual.  The XO manual explains a good deal of the Sugar networking
>> system, but the good Network View diagrams are deep in the Sugar
>> manual.  Also, the UI elements like the View Keys in the frame
>> directly relate to the keys on the top row of the keyboard.  And it's
>> important in a well-structured manual to be able to really show the
>> connection between these two elements.
>>
>> Some of the current chapters, as organized now, don't allow for this
>> to happen by chapter-remix.  The important sections are much smaller
>> than that.  We've picked out six or seven chapters from the current
>> sugar manual that we need to inject Hardware elements into directly.
>>
>> Now we're very committed to the single-source concept.  That's why the
>> manual has been kicking around FM since the start of the year.  And it
>> makes continued sense for OLPC and Sugar to have somewhat separate
>> manuals.  But in the very-short-term we need to try something a little
>> different.
>>
>> If I'm understanding your tools correctly, the best way to facilitate
>> this is to create a fresh book for organization.  Into this new book
>> we pull in around 6 chapters from the Sugar manual and most of the XO
>> manual.  We take elements from the hardware sections, integrate them
>> into the Sugar chapters and generate the changed chapters we need, all
>> to be remixed into the overall OLPC: Sugar+XO output that we'll ship.
>>
>> Come next week, after we produce our short term goal, we can work to
>> segregate out the hardware sections into chapters that flow better
>> with the Sugar narrative.  Also, by looking at some of your export
>> tools, it looks possible to place some of the XO sections in Sugar in
>> <span id=>'s.  That way they can easily be scripted to be pulled out
>> or included based on the export needs of a given manual. (ie, sugar
>> can dump the <span id=>'s that don't match what they want to export).
>>
>> We're working on a very tight schedule here.  Can we ask you to set up
>> this new manual right away?  Things are going to be moving very
>> quickly tomorrow.  We would also like if Adam Holt and I can get
>> twiki-admin, so we can publish our changes and make any remixes of the
>> TOC that might come up?  This manual can sit on the back end,
>> non-public (or public) just so long as we can export new edits quickly
>> after we make them.  I don't want to screw up the polished Sugar
>> manual that's sitting on the front of the site.
>>
>> --Seth
>>
>> Also, could we talk in the morning about your .css?  I need to start
>> creating stand-alone navigation for our bundle.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:26 PM, adam hyde <adam at flossmanuals.net>
>> wrote:
>>         hey Seth,
>>
>>         How are you thinking of doing the layout? You are doing this
>>         by hand? We
>>         have a nifty remix mechanism that will make your life a lot
>>         easier...
>>
>>         adam
>>
>>
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