[OLPC library] [Re] 'OLPC-Health' takes off !!

Joseph Dal Molin dalmolin at e-cology.ca
Wed Feb 6 16:28:26 EST 2008

Hi Seth,

VistA is written in ANSI Standard MUMPS....I think the standard is held 
by ISO now but don't quote me. That's why it runs on, or can run on all 
MUMPS versions that are standards compliant. Intersystems chooses to 
market its M as Cache and as a proprietary product. Fidelity has both a 
GPL version and a proprietary licensed version of M. The GPL version is 
limited to X86 compatible and Alpha processor architectures.

OpenVistA is a proprietary version of VistA....although the company that 
makes it does have an open source version that is a year or two behind 
the current VA release. WorldVistA EHR is GPL and up to date and the 
only CCHIT certified open source EHR.

Both GTM and Intersystems Cache are commercial products..... open source 
and commerce are not mutually exclusive...thank goodness or I would have 
been looking for a real job 8 years ago :-) Fidelity is a software 
company in the financial services sector primarily....not an insurance 


Seth Woodworth wrote:
> Is it MUMPS that is closed source, or it's commercial fork?
> "OpenVistA is written in the GtM version of MUMPS, from Sanchez, which 
> makes high-reliability financial applications that power about 60% of 
> the world's major money market transfers. (Sanchez is now owned by the 
> Fidelity life insurance company.) It runs on Linux. MUMPS has only about 
> 28 or 29 commands, is extremely fast, powerful and reliable, and has 
> been taken proprietary ('forked') by Intersystems under the name Cache', 
> which has over 100,000 users for hundreds of applications outside health 
> care. MUMPS is an acronym for Massachusetts General Hospital Utility 
> Multi-Programming System."
> On Feb 6, 2008 12:04 PM, Andreas Tille <tillea at rki.de 
> <mailto:tillea at rki.de>> wrote:
>     On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, Adrian Midgley wrote:
>      > MUMPS underlies the commercial closed source software which has
>     been in use
>      > in a grprportion of UK general medical practices over the last 20
>     years or
>      > so.
>     What about
>         http://sourceforge.net/projects/fis-gtm
>     formerly known as GT.M
>     http://www.fidelityinfoservices.com/FNFIS/Markets/NonFinancialIndustries/Healthcare/
>     GTM/
>     <http://www.fidelityinfoservices.com/FNFIS/Markets/NonFinancialIndustries/Healthcare/GTM/>
>      > It, EMIS, now holds the general medical practice records, whcih
>     is to say
>      > essentially all orgnaised primary care records, for around 40% of
>     the UK
>      > population.
>      >
>      > We are not short of M expertise in the UK.
>     Great.  Do you have any idea what might be the straightforeward way to
>     build Debian packages from it.  While I think we might be perfectly able
>     to follow the install instructions to assemble files in the right place
>     but some basic testing should be done as well and I have no idea what to
>     do regarding this aspect.
>     Kind regards
>              Andreas.
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