[OLPC library] [Grassroots-l] Health Jam 2008
Bryan Berry
bryan.berry at gmail.com
Tue Apr 29 15:20:24 EDT 2008
iXO,
let me think about how much I can contribute. I am pretty maxed out
working on Nepal's deployments.
I highly recommend you guys talk w/ Greg Smith for a structured project
plan. He can also funnel info to you guys from what the latin American
pilots need.
I probably won't be in the US for another 10 months. I doubt you want to
wait that long :)
Bryan
Kathmandu
best of luck
On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 12:13 -0700, Ixo X oxI wrote:
> Bryan,
> Great ideas !
> Let's continue this health related discussion over on the OLPC
> Health mailing list (we are veering off the general grassroots topics
> here), and see about bringing your ideas to the next Health Jam...
> maybe someone can speak up and propose a time/place on the east coast
> instead of the west coast. *hint* *hint*
>
> Sorry that you are so far away, it would be great to have you there.
> (Maybe align the jam to the next time you are in the area ? :)
>
> -iXo
>
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Bryan Berry <bryan.berry at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> absolutely,
>
> Start w/ some simple goals for Health
>
> 1 activity for first aid
> 1 activity on nutrition
> 1 activity on the causes of disease
>
> 1 good pdf on the causes of disease
>
> Then do some work on them to get started. After you have some
> prototypes
> __then__ go look for help. The argument is "Here are our
> goals, here is
> what we have so far, please help us improve what we have.
> However, if
> you are think you could create better content yourself by
> starting from
> scratch, please do so."
>
> If you ask the larger community for help w/out having any
> existing
> prototypes or precise goals, everyone goes off in different
> directions.
>
> Martin Langhoff's e-mail motto sums it up quite well
>
> "don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first"
>
> Since you have an all-volunteer team on OLPC Health, you need
> projects
> where folks can contribute a few hours a week. I recommend
> avoiding
> architecturally complex or esoteric technical projects, it
> will be hard
> for folks to put in the necessary time and for others not so
> acquainted
> w/ that obscure platform to contribute. We are running into
> this problem
> w/ EPaati since it is coded in Squeak.
>
> If you could get some of Greg Smith's time, he could help you
> put
> together a project plan. He has been very helpful to me. He is
> also
> resident in Boston
>
> hope this helps
>
>
> On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 00:01 +0530, Arjun Sarwal wrote:
> > > Why didn't the Health Jam focus on getting folks to help
> w/ the
> > > development of these activities that you described?
> > >
> > > Too many OLPC content projects are characterized by
> > > 1) Lots of great ideas
> > > 2) Lack of focus
> > > 3) Lots of excitement, wiki pages, and e-mails
> > > 4) Not much output in terms of finished activities or
> activity bundles.
> > >
> > > Sorry to be blunt but we need to change this.
> > >
> >
> > Ideas on getting started with this change ?
> >
> > (just trying to push the conversation forward in this
> direction as I
> > agree with your point to some extent)
> >
> > best
> > Arjun
> >
> >
> > From: Bryan Berry <bryan.berry at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Grassroots-l] Health Jam 2008
> > To: Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com>
> > Cc: olpc-open <olpc-open at laptop.org>, Games for the OLPC
> > <games at lists.laptop.org>, grassroots at lists.laptop.org
> > Message-ID:
> <1209493566.7102.84.camel at dell.linuxdev.us.dell.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain
> >
> > >There's no contradiction between activities that are fun,
> or with
> > >complex ideas behind them, and those that teach the most
> basic health
> > >and survival skills to children.
> >
> > Teaching basic health and survival skills to kids is
> actually quite
> > complex.
> >
> > EKG's w/ the XO or the VistA healthcare suite are neat apps
> but not what
> > is needed by most deployments.
> >
> > When I refer to "complex" I more precisely mean problems
> that are
> > technically interesting but not directly not related to
> education for
> > kids ages 6-12, OLPC's primary focus.
> >
> > Why didn't the Health Jam focus on getting folks to help w/
> the
> > development of these activities that you described?
> >
> > Too many OLPC content projects are characterized by
> > 1) Lots of great ideas
> > 2) Lack of focus
> > 3) Lots of excitement, wiki pages, and e-mails
> > 4) Not much output in terms of finished activities or
> activity bundles.
> >
> > Sorry to be blunt but we need to change this.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 13:47 -0400, Samuel Klein wrote:
> > > There's no contradiction between activities that are fun,
> or with
> > > complex ideas behind them, and those that teach the most
> basic health
> > > and survival skills to children.
> > >
> > > There are three health-related games being proposed and
> worked on at
> > > the moment that are good examples; all of which could use
> further
> > > specific input. Food Force is closest to having something
> playable...
> > > pehaps Muriel and Deepank can say a bit more about its
> recent status.
> > >
> > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Water_Wonders
> > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Malnutrition
> > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Food_Force
> > >
> > > SJ
>
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