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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; ">This attach image is a photograph taked with my cel in 2010.</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; ">This photo shows an XO with Windows XP and another with Sugar.</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; ">In Uruguay, when "Plan Ceibal" (uruguayan implementation de OLPC) begins, appears in</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; ">the scene the posibility of the high school computers uses Windows / Sugar / Gnome</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; ">In the departament of "Treinta y Tres" was made a pilot program of 5000 XO-1 with</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; ">Windows.</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; ">I'm not know about the official results of that, but I know that now, "Plan Ceibal" uses Sugar</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; ">in XO-1 for primary schools, and XO-1.5 with Sugar/Gnome for high schools.</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; ">I use that XO with Windows for some hours and get this conclusions:</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; ">- The space: the XO-1 have only 1 GB of flash disk.. I'm not sure why, for convenience or space; the</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; ">windows, is put an external SD (in that case, of 4 GB)</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; ">- The speed: some people think about the "poor" 233 mhz of the XO CPU, but, sugar works relative</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">good. Windows are very very slow: to open a folder, a program, etc.</span></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">- The memory: 256 MB are good, but only windows takes one hundred or more. And aditional </span></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">software </span><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">that is needed for the poor security of windows (an antivirus) takes some memory more..</span></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">-Sugar an XO have a special communion: the software is design for the hardware, and the hardware</span></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">for the software: you have a display that allows read perfect out in a sundy day: the activities uses a</span></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> black </span><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">and white (high contrast) style that increase the </span><font face="Calibri, sans-serif">effectiveness of that display..</font></div><div><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; "> the XO have the </span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">"mesh/ad hoc" network that the activities takes an special advantage: the collaboration</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> between </span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">some computers.. etc.. windows not have nothing of that!</span></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" size="3">That discussion can continue a lot of days..</font><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; ">Regards!</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; ">Alan<br><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div>> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 01:13:24 -0400<br>> From: joshuagay@gmail.com<br>> To: walter.bender@gmail.com; sjha@vsnl.com<br>> CC: India@lists.laptop.org<br>> Subject: Re: [OLPC India] Windows on OLPC XO 1.5<br>> <br>> Just sharing a somewhat minor/theoretical side-point ... MSFT has announced (and made clear) that all ARM based windows 8 machines must implement the full UEFI spec and to do so in such a way that it restricts/prevents a user from signing their own firmware or disabling UEFI Secure Boot (or ... So if there is a miracle of engineering and some n this case, it is better referred to as 'restricted boot'). <br>> <br>> So, if a Windows 8 machine is ported to an XO on ARM architecture, then this means that a person could neither dual boot nor replace Windows 8 with Linux plus GNU-and/or-Sugar. <br>> <br>> Josh<br>> <br>> Walter Bender <walter.bender@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> <br>> >On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Satish Jha <sjha@vsnl.com> wrote:<br>> >> Walter,<br>> >><br>> >> At this stage I am not even looking for rationale. Anyone trying to reach an<br>> >> audience has to address their concerns. They will learn the way they do. Can<br>> >> you force their learning?<br>> >><br>> >> We can conclude India is not ready or walk with India at the pace it learns.<br>> >><br>> >> Puritanism has its charm and consequences for those we want to help. That<br>> >> has kept OLPC from 5 batches of India's children and 95 percent of them get<br>> >> little education worth anything that help them join the world as we know.<br>> >><br>> >> What do you suggest? Keep them from the dreams that olpc dreamt but could<br>> >> not even share with those it dreamt for?<br>> >><br>> >> Regards<br>> >> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel<br>> >><br>> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >> India mailing list<br>> >> India@lists.laptop.org<br>> >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india<br>> >><br>> ><br>> >At its heart, this is a technical issue. It is not obvious that<br>> >Windows 8 can run on the XO hardware. And if it is possible, it will<br>> >require a significant investment to do the port. So asking for a<br>> >rationale for making this investment is not a matter of Puratism, it<br>> >is a mater of pragmatism.<br>> ><br>> >regards.<br>> ><br>> >-walter<br>> ><br>> >-- <br>> >Walter Bender<br>> >Sugar Labs<br>> >http://www.sugarlabs.org<br>> >_______________________________________________<br>> >India mailing list<br>> >India@lists.laptop.org<br>> >http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> India mailing list<br>> India@lists.laptop.org<br>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india<br></div></div> </div></body>
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