<div>Hey Harriet,</div><div><br></div><div>Except for the first line of connecting me with somebody in Delhi, the rest of the email makes no sense to me. I am sure that the same email could have been sent separate from this email thread so what prompted you to send it in this thread and leave out the rest?</div>
<div>.</div>I cannot understand what you mean by "I was reminded when a fellow/friend wikimedian sent me this exchange quoted below." What is quoted below? <div><br></div><div>Neither do I understand what you mean by I may have worked with Mr Jha, when I had mentioned to you quite clearly that I had not. </div>
<div><br>Neither do I understand what you mean with - "Let me know how I can help with something "constructive" no pun intended :)" </div><div><br></div><div>I am including the rest so that the discussion may continue on the lines before your email, if anybody has further good suggestions.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Jv</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Outofindia <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:outofindia@gmail.com" target="_blank">outofindia@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear Ravichandran<br>
<br>
I am connecting you to Satyakam as I had promised.<br>
Both of you are in Delhi and both may have experience working with Mr Jha.<br>
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Sorry for this delay.<br>
<br>
I was reminded when a fellow/friend wikimedian sent me this exchange<br>
quoted below.<br>
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I do not get any mail from this list ...so I have missed all the discussions.<br>
India <<a href="mailto:india@lists.laptop.org">india@lists.laptop.org</a>><br>
<br>
India list was run by satish at <a href="http://laptop.org" target="_blank">laptop.org</a>, sjha.olpc at <a href="http://gmail.com" target="_blank">gmail.com</a><br>
I cant remember now...it was so long ago, if I was disallowed access<br>
or didn't want to join that list.<br>
<br>
He now has a new avatar on vsnl<br>
<br>
Can anyone just post the official OLPC Upadte on that list?<br>
<br>
One credit point: He has taken down the self created wikipage.<br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satish_Jha" target="_blank">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satish_Jha</a><br>
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Let me know how I can help with something "constructive" no pun intended :)<br>
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Regards<br>
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Harriet<br>
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> hi Harriet,<br>
><br>
> Is this the correct mailing list for India related OLPC stuff? The<br>
> conversation right now seems commercial rather than social good.<br>
> warm regards,<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
> From: RJV <<a href="mailto:jv.ravichandran@gmail.com">jv.ravichandran@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Date: 30 September 2012 18:12<br>
> Subject: Re: [OLPC India] Windows on OLPC XO 1.5<br>
</div><div><div class="h5">> To: <a href="mailto:sjha@vsnl.com">sjha@vsnl.com</a><br>
> Cc: India <<a href="mailto:india@lists.laptop.org">india@lists.laptop.org</a>><br>
><br>
><br>
> Yes, I agree and no taking away the credit from your commendable efforts to<br>
> pioneering it, Mr Satish Jha.<br>
><br>
> Rather than attempting to change the world, the pragmatic way is to do<br>
> simple business. And in business, it is what the customer or the end-user<br>
> wants that should matter and not what a government thinks or a Sibal<br>
> thinks!<br>
><br>
> If Sibal or the government has asked the market to wait till it brings<br>
> Aakash to come up to speed so that the XO does not become a monopoly in the<br>
> market, it is not even worth discussing about such business models.<br>
><br>
> So, the best way forward is to empower individuals to market and sell the<br>
> XO, with the OLPC values in perspective, and help establish retail stores<br>
> by the name of OLPC.<br>
><br>
> I suggest that the OLPC India mailing list too be unformed so that<br>
> individuals can come up with their own capabilities rather than be<br>
> "controlled" and "pressurised" to work under a model that will not succeed<br>
> because it depends on an entity called politics or government that is never<br>
> conducive to successful business.<br>
><br>
> The dependency, instead, should be endowed upon dedicated and committed<br>
> individuals who want to take OLPC to the kids in India - underpriviliged or<br>
> not should be of no concern as it is a matter of governance and not related<br>
> to education and learning..<br>
><br>
> It becomes a matter of government concern when news about lacs of units<br>
> being purchased gets to be aired. Keep the number to less and no longer<br>
> will the government be concerned as it will not challenge its position.<br>
> Attempting to make India learn a lesson is in no way a sane concern so let<br>
> the objectives be clear and that is, how to enable the XO to reach a kid in<br>
> India as is the main objective of the OLPC!<br>
><br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
><br>
> Jv<br>
><br>
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 5:58 PM, <<a href="mailto:sjha@vsnl.com">sjha@vsnl.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> JV,<br>
>><br>
>> I founded OLPC India Foundation and have worked on it 24x7 and have some<br>
>> experience of dealing with nearly every stakeholder.<br>
>><br>
>> India needs to grow up a bit in the way it deals with the challenges the<br>
>> poor face and they are about 95 % of us. Regardless of what the<br>
>> government<br>
>> data may talk about.<br>
>><br>
>> We have to learn to think, something our education system does not<br>
>> prepare<br>
>> us for.<br>
>><br>
>> There will always be some exceptions. But we have to learn how the best<br>
>> in<br>
>> the world address a problem and succeed in solving it.<br>
>> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel<br>
>><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Regards,<br>
><br>
> Ravichandran Jv<br>
> <a href="http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com</a><br>
><br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Regards,<br><br>Ravichandran Jv<br><a href="http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com">http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com</a><br>
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