Hi Soundar,<br><br>Here are my recommendations for the pilot scan,<br><br>JPG Scan:<br>1. DPI=72, Black & White (should not exceed - 1200x900px)<br>2. DPI=72, 8 bit Color (should not exceed - 800x600px)<br><br>PDF Scan:<br>
DPI=72, Optimized for web, Color<br>DPI=72, Optimized for web, Black& White<br><br>The reason why I am requesting these different modes for the pilot is to check the quality & file sizes. The XOL (zip) file for each collection should be within 6MB to 7MB. <br>
Ideally, we should be able to package 3 to 5 textbooks in one XOL collection for one class within the 7MB limit.<br><br>Hope this clarifies.<br><br>Harshal<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Soundar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:soundar@eaccessbpo.com">soundar@eaccessbpo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Hello </span></font>Harshal,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Thanks. If I am doing the pilot for the Std 1 Text books for OLPC. I
would like to know the DPI & Mode of the Pages to be scan ( 300 dpi / 1 bit
Black & Whit or 300 dpi gray, if we are do the scanning in Gary the file
size to large .) please advice the same.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Regards,</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="#0080ff" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 128, 255);">Soundar M</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;"></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#400040" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(64, 0, 64);">New No.42, Old No.2,</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;"></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#400040" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(64, 0, 64);">Near Best Hospital,</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;"></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#400040" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(64, 0, 64);">Kodambakkam,</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;"></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#400040" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(64, 0, 64);">Chennai - 600 024</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;"></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#400040" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(64, 0, 64);">Mail : <a href="mailto:soundar@eaccessbpo.com" title="blocked::mailto:soundar@eaccessbpo.com
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#400040" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(64, 0, 64);">Phone : + 91 - 44 -
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> Harshal Jawale
[mailto:<a href="mailto:hjawale@gmail.com" target="_blank">hjawale@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, April 07, 2010
8:52 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:India@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">India@lists.laptop.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Soundar; Sameer Verma<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Digitizing Primary
school textbooks for OLPC, India</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Agreed Sameer. Now that Soundar has shown interest in doing textbook
scans - I think we should open this for inputs from others.<br>
<br>
To keep this discussion streamlined and focused, I would like to suggest
following discussion points:</span></font></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">To facilitate digitization of primary school
textbooks, Soundar has offered his services to scan and digitized
textbooks so that they can be used on OLPC. There are two formats which
look attractive,<br>
<br>
a) HTML - as Sameer rightly points out, its easy to keep these on school
servers. For this we would just need image scans of the pages. The images
would need to be optimized to reduce the file sizes. Also, these would
need to be packaged so that the HTML navigation can be incorporated using
Javascript or simple hyperlinks.<br>
<br>
b) PDF - this is the easy option and can also be kept on the school
server.<br>
<br>
Thoughts? This is pilot test so lets keep it simple without getting into
painful technical discussions.</span></font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Can someone check on copyright & legal
aspects of scanning primary school textbooks? Can the scans be used for
educational purpose? If not, what approvals are needed and from whom?</span></font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Soundar, since you are based in Chennai, can you
take couple of Std 1 textbooks from your local schools? Try to find a kid
you know and borrow the textbook for scanning. Please scan in JPG as well
as PDF format. We do not need them to be 'editable'</span></font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Once we do a pilot scan, then we can check if
volunteers across India
can help to collect primary school textbooks in local languages to be sent
to Soundar who can then scan them for XO.</span></font></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Thanks,<br>
<br>
Harshal</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Sameer Verma <<a href="mailto:sverma@sfsu.edu" target="_blank">sverma@sfsu.edu</a>> wrote:</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Harshal Jawale <<a href="mailto:hjawale@gmail.com" target="_blank">hjawale@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hello Soundar,<br>
><br>
> Thank you for your email and interest in helping out OLPC.<br>
><br>
> Here's what I think:<br>
><br>
> The biggest shortcoming of OLPC in India (& elsewhere) is the lack
of<br>
> content. Ofcourse, it has built-in activities and tools etc but when it<br>
> comes to learning for exams, how can it help the children? I do not have a<br>
> clear understanding of it.<br>
><br>
> This is where you can provide immense value and help.<br>
><br>
> The idea is very simple -<br>
> Digitize textbooks of Std 1 to 4 (primary school) for OLPC. And, to start<br>
> with, you can focus on Science, Maths and one language.<br>
><br>
> Most of the syllabus and curriculum is determined by the State Govts. - in<br>
> many cases, the Govt publishes the textbooks and heavily subsidizes it for<br>
> primary students.<br>
> Now, if instead of carrying paper textbooks, if these kids had it all on<br>
> their XO or could access it using the XO- it changes the whole equation on<br>
> how the XO gets used! The students don't need to carry any books at all.<br>
><br>
> Do you think you have the capacity to softcopy (digitize) textbooks from
Std<br>
> 1 to 4 for 10 major Indian Languages? That would be around (4 classes x 3<br>
> subjects x 10 languages = 120 books)<br>
><br>
> If you can do this, I am hoping that we can request volunteers around India<br>
> to ship you textbooks. You can then create the soft-copies and I can help<br>
> package the collection for XO.<br>
><br>
> Sameer, what do you think?<br>
> I am aware that softcopies take disk space which the XO may not have. But,<br>
> school server can host this or an additional SD card can also help solve
the<br>
> problem. In any case, this shouldn't be a big deal. I am also betting that<br>
> since the Govt owns the rights to the educational material, they won't
have<br>
> problem if this is made freely available to all kids in India.<br>
><br>
> Harshal</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Soundar <<a href="mailto:soundar@eaccessbpo.com" target="_blank">soundar@eaccessbpo.com</a>> wrote:</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Hello </span></font>Harshal,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Thanks for the reply.
Really I am very happy to do this. I would like to know whether the all text
books in softcopy ( only for image (PDF ) or editable Soft copy.) please advice
the same. How I will get the entire text book.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Regards,</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">There are two basic pathways to content. Either it is prepackaged by<br>
the country/state or the school/teachers create it. So, for instance<br>
you want electronic versions of textbooks, then the books have to be<br>
scanned or digitized (OCR). NCERT has already done this in an<br>
experimental mode. <a href="http://www.ncert.nic.in/textbooks/testing/Index.htm" target="_blank">http://www.ncert.nic.in/textbooks/testing/Index.htm</a><br>
Anything that's HTML/web based for exams etc. are usable with a school<br>
server. A lot of the material is not clear legally for reuse in such<br>
environments.<br>
<br>
The mode of self-exploration and development of content locally is<br>
based on activities such as Write (word processing), Memorize (memory<br>
matching), etc. TamTamEdit is a music editing system that allows for<br>
building card-based music scores, which can then be played in<br>
TamTamJam. <a href="http://tamtam4olpc.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/new-tamtam-90-flat.png" target="_blank">http://tamtam4olpc.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/new-tamtam-90-flat.png</a><br>
<br>
Etoys is its own authoring system. Sandeep Surve, the teacher in<br>
Khairat did some of his own development early on. I saw this when I<br>
was there in 2008. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgKy0SuZJHk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgKy0SuZJHk</a><br>
<br>
Nepal
is using a HTML and Javascript framework that they have<br>
developed (<a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Karma" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Karma</a>).<br>
<br>
The choices are several. A lot depends on who is authoring and how it<br>
is delivered.<br>
<br>
Note: A good bit of this discussion should happen on the lists so that<br>
others can chime in.</span></font></p>
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cheers,<br>
Sameer<br>
--<br>
Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D.<br>
Associate Professor, Information Systems<br>
Director, Campus Business Solutions<br>
San Francisco State University<br>
<a href="http://verma.sfsu.edu/" target="_blank">http://verma.sfsu.edu/</a><br>
<a href="http://cbs.sfsu.edu/" target="_blank">http://cbs.sfsu.edu/</a><br>
<a href="http://is.sfsu.edu/" target="_blank">http://is.sfsu.edu/</a></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#400040" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(64, 0, 64);">New No.42, Old No.2,</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><font color="#400040"><span style="color: rgb(64, 0, 64);">Vellalar Street</span></font><font color="#400040"><span style="color: rgb(64, 0, 64);">,</span></font></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#400040" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(64, 0, 64);">Near </span></font><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><font color="#400040"><span style="color: rgb(64, 0, 64);">Best</span></font><font color="#400040"><span style="color: rgb(64, 0, 64);"> </span></font><font color="#400040"><span style="color: rgb(64, 0, 64);">Hospital</span></font><font color="#400040"><span style="color: rgb(64, 0, 64);">,</span></font></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#400040" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(64, 0, 64);">Kodambakkam,</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#400040" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(64, 0, 64);">Chennai - 600 024</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#400040" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(64, 0, 64);">Mail : <a href="mailto:soundar@eaccessbpo.com" title="blocked::mailto:soundar@eaccessbpo.com
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43565774</span></font></p>
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