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When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>
than "Re: Contents of India digest..."</b></blockquote><div><br><br><br>This will make it easier for a person like me to understand what is happening!! <br>Here I go:<br>Please put your Skype id ( <a href="http://www.skype.com" target="_blank">www.skype.com</a>) and the good time to make a con-call in the attached excel sheet.We will form a group-a group that wants to take OLPC forward,a group that will form special interest groups with in itself (SIG's)-that way we can handle multiple tasks simultaneously<br>
Lets make ourselves real :-)))<br>Find attached a excel sheet-please fill it for our reference<br>Gowri <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Today's Topics:<br>
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1. Re: India Digest, Vol 24, Issue 11 (Usha Gowri)<br>
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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:28:09 +0530<br>
From: "Usha Gowri" <<a href="mailto:usha.gowri@gmail.com" target="_blank">usha.gowri@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [OLPC India] India Digest, Vol 24, Issue 11<br>
To: <a href="mailto:india@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">india@lists.laptop.org</a><br>
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So is Marc "unsubscribed" or not.?<br>
If he is ,it should go immediately-because it will silence the already<br>
lurking members in this forum<br>
And censorship is deadly for any organisation.<br>
<br>
If not -end of story.<br>
<br>
Satish-I think most of us are on Skype .I am willing to take the<br>
responsibility of getting all of you for a conference on Skype.I think if we<br>
can get over our concerns most people can think forward.<br>
Satish,what say you?<br>
Gowri<br>
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> 1. Re: "You have been unsubscribed from the India mailing list"<br>
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> 2. Norms for all of us on this list.. (Satish Jha OLPC)<br>
> 3. Richard Stallman - Why I switched to the OLPC?and why I<br>
> dropped it . (Saswat Praharaj)<br>
> 4. Re: Richard Stallman - Why I switched to the OLPC?and why I<br>
> dropped it . (Walter Bender)<br>
> 5. Re: Richard Stallman - Why I switched to the OLPC?and why I<br>
> dropped it . (Satish Jha OLPC)<br>
> 6. Re: Richard Stallman - Why I switched to the OLPC?and why I<br>
> dropped it . (Walter Bender)<br>
> 7. Re: Richard Stallman - Why I switched to the OLPC?and why I<br>
> dropped it . (Satish Jha)<br>
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
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> Message: 1<br>
> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:25:08 +0100<br>
> From: Shikhar <<a href="mailto:shikhar@schmizz.net" target="_blank">shikhar@schmizz.net</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [OLPC India] "You have been unsubscribed from the India<br>
> mailing list"<br>
> To: Marc Valentin <<a href="mailto:mvalentin@oeuvredespains.org" target="_blank">mvalentin@oeuvredespains.org</a>><br>
> Cc: <a href="mailto:india@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">india@lists.laptop.org</a><br>
> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:490F33F4.8070509@schmizz.net" target="_blank">490F33F4.8070509@schmizz.net</a>><br>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<br>
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> Marc Valentin wrote:<br>
> > Yes, that is right, they finally unsubscribed me from India mailing list<br>
> !<br>
> > Why ? Because some of my questions are not "politically correct" I<br>
> > suppose... But why our questions should be "politically correct" ?<br>
> > Don't we deserve real answers from Satish/OLPC ? Is the truth so dark<br>
> > that it cannot be written in a message on the list ? I cannot imagine<br>
> > that.<br>
> > Can't we have our own opinion about how OLPC can help educate children<br>
> > ? Is it not understandable to care more about support, teachers<br>
> > training, curriculum, than the distribution of millions of XO ? Rigid<br>
> > ideology could ruin this project.<br>
> > For sometime, I will get my news from <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org" target="_blank">wiki.laptop.org</a> and <a href="http://olpcnews.com" target="_blank">olpcnews.com</a><br>
> > and stop participating to this list.<br>
> > I was registered for more than a year.<br>
> > -marc-<br>
> > mvalentin AT <a href="http://oeuvredespains.org" target="_blank">oeuvredespains.org</a><br>
> ><br>
><br>
> This is ridiculous. Marc has been asking questions a lot of us want to<br>
> know the answers to. If the India team does not have the answers, it's<br>
> better to just admit than flipflop about... as for unsubscribing him<br>
> from the list, that's outright censorship.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Shikhar<br>
><br>
><br>
> ------------------------------<br>
><br>
> Message: 2<br>
> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:36:55 -0500<br>
> From: "Satish Jha OLPC" <<a href="mailto:satish@laptop.org" target="_blank">satish@laptop.org</a>><br>
> Subject: [OLPC India] Norms for all of us on this list..<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:india@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">india@lists.laptop.org</a><br>
> Message-ID:<br>
> <<a href="mailto:6477369f0811030936w2b9cad15jc82863f42fd7314e@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">6477369f0811030936w2b9cad15jc82863f42fd7314e@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
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> It has gone too far..<br>
><br>
> No one was unsubscribed.. If he was how did he post the message?<br>
><br>
> That said, I am of the opinion that anyone who is not positive should not<br>
> post messages. Anyone doing it twice may be removed.<br>
><br>
> As regards the questions, each question has been answered. In case<br>
> something<br>
> has been missed, please itemize them and post them again rather than using<br>
> words like "ridiculous". Its entirely possible that your assumptions may be<br>
> unfounded.<br>
><br>
> Thanks<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Shikhar <<a href="mailto:shikhar@schmizz.net" target="_blank">shikhar@schmizz.net</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > Marc Valentin wrote:<br>
> > > Yes, that is right, they finally unsubscribed me from India mailing<br>
> list<br>
> > !<br>
> > > Why ? Because some of my questions are not "politically correct" I<br>
> > > suppose... But why our questions should be "politically correct" ?<br>
> > > Don't we deserve real answers from Satish/OLPC ? Is the truth so dark<br>
> > > that it cannot be written in a message on the list ? I cannot imagine<br>
> > > that.<br>
> > > Can't we have our own opinion about how OLPC can help educate children<br>
> > > ? Is it not understandable to care more about support, teachers<br>
> > > training, curriculum, than the distribution of millions of XO ? Rigid<br>
> > > ideology could ruin this project.<br>
> > > For sometime, I will get my news from <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org" target="_blank">wiki.laptop.org</a> and <a href="http://olpcnews.com" target="_blank">olpcnews.com</a><br>
> > > and stop participating to this list.<br>
> > > I was registered for more than a year.<br>
> > > -marc-<br>
> > > mvalentin AT <a href="http://oeuvredespains.org" target="_blank">oeuvredespains.org</a><br>
> > ><br>
> ><br>
> > This is ridiculous. Marc has been asking questions a lot of us want to<br>
> > know the answers to. If the India team does not have the answers, it's<br>
> > better to just admit than flipflop about... as for unsubscribing him<br>
> > from the list, that's outright censorship.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Shikhar<br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
> > India mailing list<br>
> > <a href="mailto:India@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">India@lists.laptop.org</a><br>
> > <a href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india</a><br>
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> From: Saswat Praharaj <<a href="mailto:saswat_praharaj@yahoo.com" target="_blank">saswat_praharaj@yahoo.com</a>><br>
> Subject: [OLPC India] Richard Stallman - Why I switched to the<br>
> OLPC?and why I dropped it .<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:india@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">india@lists.laptop.org</a><br>
> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:188345.94517.qm@web33808.mail.mud.yahoo.com" target="_blank">188345.94517.qm@web33808.mail.mud.yahoo.com</a>><br>
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> <a href="http://www.bostonreview.net/BR33.6/stallman.php" target="_blank">http://www.bostonreview.net/BR33.6/stallman.php</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> Snip >>>.<br>
> The One Laptop Per Child project, launched by MIT professor Nicholas<br>
> Negroponte in 2003, was supposed to lead millions of children around<br>
> the world to information technology and freedom. The plans aimed for<br>
> low cost, enabling many children to use the machines, and free<br>
> software, so they would have freedom while using them. I thought it was<br>
> a good idea; I even planned to use one myself when I found in the<br>
> OLPC?s promise of free software a way to escape the proprietary startup<br>
> programs that all commercial laptops used.<br>
> But just as I<br>
> was switching to an OLPC, the project backed away from its commitment<br>
> to freedom and allowed the machine to become a platform for running<br>
> Windows, a non-free operating system.<br>
> What makes this<br>
> issue so important, and OLPC?s retreat from free software so<br>
> unfortunate, is that the ?free? in free software refers to freedom of<br>
> knowledge and action, not to price. A program (whatever job it does) is<br>
> free software if you, the user, have the four essential freedoms:<br>
> >>>>>>...<br>
><br>
><br>
> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to<br>
> <a href="http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/" target="_blank">http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/</a><br>
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> Message: 4<br>
> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:02:13 -0500<br>
> From: "Walter Bender" <<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com" target="_blank">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [OLPC India] Richard Stallman - Why I switched to the<br>
> OLPC?and why I dropped it .<br>
> To: "Saswat Praharaj" <<a href="mailto:saswat_praharaj@yahoo.com" target="_blank">saswat_praharaj@yahoo.com</a>><br>
> Cc: <a href="mailto:india@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">india@lists.laptop.org</a><br>
> Message-ID:<br>
> <<a href="mailto:fd535e260811031502y44cfb720w8dec42b80a706ec1@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">fd535e260811031502y44cfb720w8dec42b80a706ec1@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
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> Sugar, the learning software environment on the OLPC XO-1 laptop and<br>
> that runs on almost any computer that runs GNU/Linux, is free software<br>
> and will always be free software. Learning demands freedom.<br>
><br>
> -walter<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Saswat Praharaj<br>
> <<a href="mailto:saswat_praharaj@yahoo.com" target="_blank">saswat_praharaj@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > <a href="http://www.bostonreview.net/BR33.6/stallman.php" target="_blank">http://www.bostonreview.net/BR33.6/stallman.php</a><br>
> ><br>
> > Snip >>>.<br>
> ><br>
> > The One Laptop Per Child project, launched by MIT professor Nicholas<br>
> > Negroponte in 2003, was supposed to lead millions of children around the<br>
> > world to information technology and freedom. The plans aimed for low<br>
> cost,<br>
> > enabling many children to use the machines, and free software, so they<br>
> would<br>
> > have freedom while using them. I thought it was a good idea; I even<br>
> planned<br>
> > to use one myself when I found in the OLPC's promise of free software a<br>
> way<br>
> > to escape the proprietary startup programs that all commercial laptops<br>
> used.<br>
> ><br>
> > But just as I was switching to an OLPC, the project backed away from its<br>
> > commitment to freedom and allowed the machine to become a platform for<br>
> > running Windows, a non-free operating system.<br>
> ><br>
> > What makes this issue so important, and OLPC's retreat from free software<br>
> so<br>
> > unfortunate, is that the "free" in free software refers to freedom of<br>
> > knowledge and action, not to price. A program (whatever job it does) is<br>
> free<br>
> > software if you, the user, have the four essential freedoms:<br>
> ><br>
> >>>>>>>...<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > ________________________________<br>
> > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now<br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
> > India mailing list<br>
> > <a href="mailto:India@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">India@lists.laptop.org</a><br>
> > <a href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india</a><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Walter Bender<br>
> Sugar Labs<br>
> <a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> ------------------------------<br>
><br>
> Message: 5<br>
> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 05:18:38 -0500<br>
> From: "Satish Jha OLPC" <<a href="mailto:satish@laptop.org" target="_blank">satish@laptop.org</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [OLPC India] Richard Stallman - Why I switched to the<br>
> OLPC?and why I dropped it .<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:india@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">india@lists.laptop.org</a><br>
> Message-ID:<br>
> <<a href="mailto:6477369f0811040218n342b56fame4930fb62150ab5c@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">6477369f0811040218n342b56fame4930fb62150ab5c@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>
><br>
> Richard Stallman has been trying to get his idea of "Free" accepted as he<br>
> would like for quite some time. He is a leader in his own right and has<br>
> energised a whole movement of "Free" software.<br>
><br>
> However, XO is for children. Its for those who need to learn and are not<br>
> already the leaders of a movement, though I hope they will all have access<br>
> to the world that will make a potential leader out of everyone.<br>
><br>
> My request is that these debates, important as they are, may not belong<br>
> here.<br>
><br>
> This forum may be far more useful as a way to get the XO reach all those<br>
> who<br>
> need it rather than have ideological debates, which must go on at the right<br>
> places.<br>
><br>
> Thanks mch.<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Saswat Praharaj<br>
> <<a href="mailto:saswat_praharaj@yahoo.com" target="_blank">saswat_praharaj@yahoo.com</a>>wrote:<br>
><br>
> > <a href="http://www.bostonreview.net/BR33.6/stallman.php" target="_blank">http://www.bostonreview.net/BR33.6/stallman.php</a><br>
> ><br>
> > Snip >>>.<br>
> ><br>
> > The One Laptop Per Child project, launched by MIT professor Nicholas<br>
> > Negroponte in 2003, was supposed to lead millions of children around the<br>
> > world to information technology and freedom. The plans aimed for low<br>
> cost,<br>
> > enabling many children to use the machines, and free software, so they<br>
> would<br>
> > have freedom while using them. I thought it was a good idea; I even<br>
> planned<br>
> > to use one myself when I found in the OLPC's promise of free software a<br>
> way<br>
> > to escape the proprietary startup programs that all commercial laptops<br>
> used.<br>
> ><br>
> > But just as I was switching to an OLPC, the project backed away from its<br>
> > commitment to freedom and allowed the machine to become a platform for<br>
> > running Windows, a non-free operating system.<br>
> ><br>
> > What makes this issue so important, and OLPC's retreat from free software<br>
> > so unfortunate, is that the "free" in free software refers to freedom of<br>
> > knowledge and action, not to price. A program (whatever job it does) is<br>
> free<br>
> > software if you, the user, have the four essential freedoms:<br>
> ><br>
> > >>>>>>...<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > ------------------------------<br>
> > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now<<br>
> <a href="http://in.rd.yahoo.com/tagline_mail_2/*http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/" target="_blank">http://in.rd.yahoo.com/tagline_mail_2/*http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/</a><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
> > India mailing list<br>
> > <a href="mailto:India@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">India@lists.laptop.org</a><br>
> > <a href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india</a><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
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> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 06:53:55 -0500<br>
> From: "Walter Bender" <<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com" target="_blank">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [OLPC India] Richard Stallman - Why I switched to the<br>
> OLPC?and why I dropped it .<br>
> To: "Satish Jha OLPC" <<a href="mailto:satish@laptop.org" target="_blank">satish@laptop.org</a>><br>
> Cc: <a href="mailto:india@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">india@lists.laptop.org</a><br>
> Message-ID:<br>
> <<a href="mailto:fd535e260811040353x1d775f79i729741f9a721b790@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">fd535e260811040353x1d775f79i729741f9a721b790@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
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> Q: Is this list more generally about enabling learning or is more<br>
> narrowly about enabling learning through the OLPC XO-1 hardware?<br>
><br>
> regards.<br>
><br>
> -walter<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:18 AM, Satish Jha OLPC <<a href="mailto:satish@laptop.org" target="_blank">satish@laptop.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> > Richard Stallman has been trying to get his idea of "Free" accepted as he<br>
> > would like for quite some time. He is a leader in his own right and has<br>
> > energised a whole movement of "Free" software.<br>
> ><br>
> > However, XO is for children. Its for those who need to learn and are not<br>
> > already the leaders of a movement, though I hope they will all have<br>
> access<br>
> > to the world that will make a potential leader out of everyone.<br>
> ><br>
> > My request is that these debates, important as they are, may not belong<br>
> > here.<br>
> ><br>
> > This forum may be far more useful as a way to get the XO reach all those<br>
> who<br>
> > need it rather than have ideological debates, which must go on at the<br>
> right<br>
> > places.<br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks mch.<br>
> ><br>
> > On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Saswat Praharaj <<br>
> <a href="mailto:saswat_praharaj@yahoo.com" target="_blank">saswat_praharaj@yahoo.com</a>><br>
> > wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >> <a href="http://www.bostonreview.net/BR33.6/stallman.php" target="_blank">http://www.bostonreview.net/BR33.6/stallman.php</a><br>
> >><br>
> >> Snip >>>.<br>
> >><br>
> >> The One Laptop Per Child project, launched by MIT professor Nicholas<br>
> >> Negroponte in 2003, was supposed to lead millions of children around the<br>
> >> world to information technology and freedom. The plans aimed for low<br>
> cost,<br>
> >> enabling many children to use the machines, and free software, so they<br>
> would<br>
> >> have freedom while using them. I thought it was a good idea; I even<br>
> planned<br>
> >> to use one myself when I found in the OLPC's promise of free software a<br>
> way<br>
> >> to escape the proprietary startup programs that all commercial laptops<br>
> used.<br>
> >><br>
> >> But just as I was switching to an OLPC, the project backed away from its<br>
> >> commitment to freedom and allowed the machine to become a platform for<br>
> >> running Windows, a non-free operating system.<br>
> >><br>
> >> What makes this issue so important, and OLPC's retreat from free<br>
> software<br>
> >> so unfortunate, is that the "free" in free software refers to freedom of<br>
> >> knowledge and action, not to price. A program (whatever job it does) is<br>
> free<br>
> >> software if you, the user, have the four essential freedoms:<br>
> >><br>
> >> >>>>>>...<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> ________________________________<br>
> >> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now<br>
> >> _______________________________________________<br>
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><br>
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> --<br>
> Walter Bender<br>
> Sugar Labs<br>
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><br>
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> ------------------------------<br>
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> Message: 7<br>
> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 07:25:09 -0500<br>
> From: "Satish Jha" <<a href="mailto:satish@laptop.org" target="_blank">satish@laptop.org</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [OLPC India] Richard Stallman - Why I switched to the<br>
> OLPC?and why I dropped it .<br>
> To: "Walter Bender" <<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com" target="_blank">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Cc: <a href="mailto:india@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">india@lists.laptop.org</a><br>
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> Walter,<br>
><br>
> Posed this way, the only answer possible is : enabling learning using XO<br>
> and<br>
> its versions in general. Broadly speaking, in the context of OLPC and, in<br>
> particular, its application in India.<br>
><br>
> More general questions that in the opinion of the participants aid that<br>
> process should be welcome as well. You are a co-founder of OLPC and I would<br>
> think what you may consider appropriate is clearly right.<br>
><br>
> Thanks and regards<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Walter Bender <<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com" target="_blank">walter.bender@gmail.com</a><br>
> >wrote:<br>
><br>
> > Q: Is this list more generally about enabling learning or is more<br>
> > narrowly about enabling learning through the OLPC XO-1 hardware?<br>
> ><br>
> > regards.<br>
> ><br>
> > -walter<br>
> ><br>
> > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:18 AM, Satish Jha OLPC <<a href="mailto:satish@laptop.org" target="_blank">satish@laptop.org</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
> > > Richard Stallman has been trying to get his idea of "Free" accepted as<br>
> he<br>
> > > would like for quite some time. He is a leader in his own right and has<br>
> > > energised a whole movement of "Free" software.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > However, XO is for children. Its for those who need to learn and are<br>
> not<br>
> > > already the leaders of a movement, though I hope they will all have<br>
> > access<br>
> > > to the world that will make a potential leader out of everyone.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > My request is that these debates, important as they are, may not belong<br>
> > > here.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > This forum may be far more useful as a way to get the XO reach all<br>
> those<br>
> > who<br>
> > > need it rather than have ideological debates, which must go on at the<br>
> > right<br>
> > > places.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Thanks mch.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Saswat Praharaj <<br>
> > <a href="mailto:saswat_praharaj@yahoo.com" target="_blank">saswat_praharaj@yahoo.com</a>><br>
> > > wrote:<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> <a href="http://www.bostonreview.net/BR33.6/stallman.php" target="_blank">http://www.bostonreview.net/BR33.6/stallman.php</a><br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Snip >>>.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> The One Laptop Per Child project, launched by MIT professor Nicholas<br>
> > >> Negroponte in 2003, was supposed to lead millions of children around<br>
> the<br>
> > >> world to information technology and freedom. The plans aimed for low<br>
> > cost,<br>
> > >> enabling many children to use the machines, and free software, so they<br>
> > would<br>
> > >> have freedom while using them. I thought it was a good idea; I even<br>
> > planned<br>
> > >> to use one myself when I found in the OLPC's promise of free software<br>
> a<br>
> > way<br>
> > >> to escape the proprietary startup programs that all commercial laptops<br>
> > used.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> But just as I was switching to an OLPC, the project backed away from<br>
> its<br>
> > >> commitment to freedom and allowed the machine to become a platform for<br>
> > >> running Windows, a non-free operating system.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> What makes this issue so important, and OLPC's retreat from free<br>
> > software<br>
> > >> so unfortunate, is that the "free" in free software refers to freedom<br>
> of<br>
> > >> knowledge and action, not to price. A program (whatever job it does)<br>
> is<br>
> > free<br>
> > >> software if you, the user, have the four essential freedoms:<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> >>>>>>...<br>
> > >><br>
> > >><br>
> > >><br>
> > >> ________________________________<br>
> > >> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now<br>
> > >> _______________________________________________<br>
> > >> India mailing list<br>
> > >> <a href="mailto:India@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">India@lists.laptop.org</a><br>
> > >> <a href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india</a><br>
> > >><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > _______________________________________________<br>
> > > India mailing list<br>
> > > <a href="mailto:India@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">India@lists.laptop.org</a><br>
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> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > Walter Bender<br>
> > Sugar Labs<br>
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