From echerlin at gmail.com Sat May 2 20:00:26 2009 From: echerlin at gmail.com (Edward Cherlin) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 17:00:26 -0700 Subject: [OLPC India] delivery time to India In-Reply-To: <49F86E45.4030302@web.de> References: <49F86E45.4030302@web.de> Message-ID: We don't have a delivery date, as far as I know. To get the lowest possible manufacturing price, OLPC had to let Quanta and the parts suppliers schedule production. When Give Many was still working, the terms were cash in advance, delivery date to be given in a month for any time in the following year. India should get a better result than that, but I don't know how much better. On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Petra Rautenberg wrote: > Hi, > > how long is the current delivery time of the laptops for orders to India? > Are there any delays? > > Regards, > Petra Rautenberg > > > _______________________________________________ > India mailing list > India at lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india > > -- Silent Thunder (??/???????????????/????????????? ?) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. http://earthtreasury.org/worknet (Edward Mokurai Cherlin) From prashantbthakkar at gmail.com Sun May 3 02:34:12 2009 From: prashantbthakkar at gmail.com (Prashant Thakkar) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 02:34:12 -0400 Subject: [OLPC India] Reminder: Please Respond to Prashant's Invitation Message-ID: Prashant Thakkar wants you to join Yaari! Is Prashant your friend? Yes, Prashant is my friend! No, Prashant isn't my friend. 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What are the terms of agreement etc. Sorry I am sounding rather inquisitory, but I do genuinely hope that this works out well in India and goes to children who need them the most... Ananya S Guha IGNOU Institute For Vocational Education And Training Shillong. On 5/3/09, Edward Cherlin wrote: > > We don't have a delivery date, as far as I know. To get the lowest > possible manufacturing price, OLPC had to let Quanta and the parts > suppliers schedule production. When Give Many was still working, the > terms were cash in advance, delivery date to be given in a month for > any time in the following year. India should get a better result than > that, but I don't know how much better. > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Petra Rautenberg > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > how long is the current delivery time of the laptops for orders to India? > > Are there any delays? > > > > Regards, > > Petra Rautenberg > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > India mailing list > > India at lists.laptop.org > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india > > > > > > > > -- > Silent Thunder (??/???????????????/????????????? ?) is my name > And Children are my nation. > The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. > http://earthtreasury.org/worknet (Edward Mokurai Cherlin) > _______________________________________________ > India mailing list > India at lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/india/attachments/20090507/3e590442/attachment.htm From sajuzac at gmail.com Mon May 25 13:03:17 2009 From: sajuzac at gmail.com (Saju Varghese) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 22:33:17 +0530 Subject: [OLPC India] BJP on FOSS fence: Campaigns vs Markets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <63381940905251003i5180e889pf4feeb9e1f3f7d9@mail.gmail.com> Friends,can anyone give me some inputs for getting few OLPC ordered? On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Satish Jha wrote: > I am not sure if campaigns have changed purchasing policies in India. Will > be glad to know about some examples. > > That said, "Sugar on a Stick" is good idea and sounds fun as a name as > well, amost like a lollypop.. > > One key aspect of open source or not for profit initiatives is that they do > not recognise the value of sales and marketing. But consider this. When a > buyer has multiple choices, multiple vendors making a case by every possible > means about the superiority and value of their product, the campaigns > become more of a noise and reverberate among those interested in them until > they gain a critical mass and momentum to override the market logic. > > Then again, campaigns making technology choices have a huge question mark > hanging over them.. A bit like Taliban imposing values on the rest of the > society... Choices need to be made through a process that allow various > competing questions to be addressed and resolved through an agreeable set of > criteria.. > > On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > >> Maybe we can start a campaign to run Sugar on a Stick or Sugar on QEMU >> on these machines... >> >> -walter >> >> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Bhargav Prasanna >> wrote: >> > We already had an extensive discussion about the BJP thingy on our LUG >> list. >> > Its really sad that such a big party should say one thing whilst doing >> > something completely in contrast (I know. Most parties do that today.) >> > >> > Frankly, you cannot believe them. While they talk about FOSS, they use >> > flash in their websites. >> > A Firefox Tools-> Page Info -> Media tab for >> > hypertextwwwlkadvaniin yields enough >> > information. >> > -- >> -- >> > > _______________________________________________ > India mailing list > India at lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/india/attachments/20090525/3321926c/attachment.htm From nnyguha48 at gmail.com Mon May 25 13:18:17 2009 From: nnyguha48 at gmail.com (Ananya Guha) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 22:48:17 +0530 Subject: [OLPC India] BJP on FOSS fence: Campaigns vs Markets In-Reply-To: <63381940905251003i5180e889pf4feeb9e1f3f7d9@mail.gmail.com> References: <63381940905251003i5180e889pf4feeb9e1f3f7d9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes, some inputs please for getting some OLPC ordered? Ananya S Guha Shillong. On 5/25/09, Saju Varghese wrote: > > Friends,can anyone give me some inputs for getting few OLPC ordered? > > On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Satish Jha wrote: > >> I am not sure if campaigns have changed purchasing policies in India. >> Will be glad to know about some examples. >> >> That said, "Sugar on a Stick" is good idea and sounds fun as a name as >> well, amost like a lollypop.. >> >> One key aspect of open source or not for profit initiatives is that they >> do not recognise the value of sales and marketing. But consider this. When a >> buyer has multiple choices, multiple vendors making a case by every possible >> means about the superiority and value of their product, the campaigns >> become more of a noise and reverberate among those interested in them until >> they gain a critical mass and momentum to override the market logic. >> >> Then again, campaigns making technology choices have a huge question mark >> hanging over them.. A bit like Taliban imposing values on the rest of the >> society... Choices need to be made through a process that allow various >> competing questions to be addressed and resolved through an agreeable set of >> criteria.. >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Walter Bender wrote: >> >>> Maybe we can start a campaign to run Sugar on a Stick or Sugar on QEMU >>> on these machines... >>> >>> -walter >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Bhargav Prasanna >>> wrote: >>> > We already had an extensive discussion about the BJP thingy on our LUG >>> list. >>> > Its really sad that such a big party should say one thing whilst doing >>> > something completely in contrast (I know. Most parties do that today.) >>> > >>> > Frankly, you cannot believe them. While they talk about FOSS, they use >>> > flash in their websites. >>> > A Firefox Tools-> Page Info -> Media tab for >>> > hypertextwwwlkadvaniin yields enough >>> > information. >>> > -- >>> -- >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> India mailing list >> India at lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > India mailing list > India at lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/india/attachments/20090525/c3a197ff/attachment.htm From adhikaris at hotmail.com Sun May 31 14:07:03 2009 From: adhikaris at hotmail.com (Saurabh Adhikari) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 18:07:03 -0000 Subject: [OLPC India] OLPC in The Telegraph Message-ID: This looks like one of the more postive stories on OLPC in the Indian media.. 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