<div>I am very interested in participating in the discussion although I'm still collecting my thoughts (I share many of Bryan's views).</div>
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<div>However, in the spirit of "working code first" and as a possible answer to one of his specific requests.</div>
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<div>How does this look?</div>
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<div>Understanding Microbes in Sickness and Health</div>
<div><a href="http://www3.niaid.nih.gov/healthscience/healthtopics/microbes/PDF/microbesbook.pdf">http://www3.niaid.nih.gov/healthscience/healthtopics/microbes/PDF/microbesbook.pdf</a><br></div>
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<div>Pros:</div>
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<div>1) On topic</div>
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<div>2) Authoritative (product of NIH, National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases)</div>
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<div>3) Public domain as US Govt. Work (specifically NIH Publication No. 06-4914)</div>
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<div>Cons:<br></div>
<div>1) Maybe a little high end in the vocubulary, target for US govt. pubs is often 10th-grade reading level.</div>
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<div>2) Currently only in English (maybe Spanish with some luck, but definitely not Nepali)<br></div>
<div>Bryan, can you show this to someone in Nepal to see if it looks close to what they would like to see? Feedback would assist the search for something suitable.</div>
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<div>cjl</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Bryan Berry <<a href="mailto:bryan.berry@gmail.com" target="_blank">bryan.berry@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">absolutely,<br><br>Start w/ some simple goals for Health<br><br>1 activity for first aid<br>1 activity on nutrition<br>
1 activity on the causes of disease<br><br>1 good pdf on the causes of disease<br><br>Then do some work on them to get started. After you have some prototypes<br>__then__ go look for help. The argument is "Here are our goals, here is<br>
what we have so far, please help us improve what we have. However, if<br>you are think you could create better content yourself by starting from<br>scratch, please do so."<br><br>If you ask the larger community for help w/out having any existing<br>
prototypes or precise goals, everyone goes off in different directions.<br><br>Martin Langhoff's e-mail motto sums it up quite well<br><br>"don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first"<br>
<br>Since you have an all-volunteer team on OLPC Health, you need projects<br>where folks can contribute a few hours a week. I recommend avoiding<br>architecturally complex or esoteric technical projects, it will be hard<br>
for folks to put in the necessary time and for others not so acquainted<br>w/ that obscure platform to contribute. We are running into this problem<br>w/ EPaati since it is coded in Squeak.<br><br>If you could get some of Greg Smith's time, he could help you put<br>
together a project plan. He has been very helpful to me. He is also<br>resident in Boston<br><br>hope this helps<br>
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<div><br>On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 00:01 +0530, Arjun Sarwal wrote:<br>> > Why didn't the Health Jam focus on getting folks to help w/ the<br>> > development of these activities that you described?<br>> ><br>
> > Too many OLPC content projects are characterized by<br>> > 1) Lots of great ideas<br>> > 2) Lack of focus<br>> > 3) Lots of excitement, wiki pages, and e-mails<br>> > 4) Not much output in terms of finished activities or activity bundles.<br>
> ><br>> > Sorry to be blunt but we need to change this.<br>> ><br>><br>> Ideas on getting started with this change ?<br>><br>> (just trying to push the conversation forward in this direction as I<br>
> agree with your point to some extent)<br>><br>> best<br>> Arjun<br>><br>><br>> From: Bryan Berry <<a href="mailto:bryan.berry@gmail.com" target="_blank">bryan.berry@gmail.com</a>><br>> Subject: Re: [Grassroots-l] Health Jam 2008<br>
> To: Samuel Klein <<a href="mailto:meta.sj@gmail.com" target="_blank">meta.sj@gmail.com</a>><br>> Cc: olpc-open <<a href="mailto:olpc-open@laptop.org" target="_blank">olpc-open@laptop.org</a>>, Games for the OLPC<br>
> <<a href="mailto:games@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">games@lists.laptop.org</a>>, <a href="mailto:grassroots@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">grassroots@lists.laptop.org</a><br>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:1209493566.7102.84.camel@dell.linuxdev.us.dell.com" target="_blank">1209493566.7102.84.camel@dell.linuxdev.us.dell.com</a>><br>
> Content-Type: text/plain<br>><br>> >There's no contradiction between activities that are fun, or with<br>> >complex ideas behind them, and those that teach the most basic health<br>> >and survival skills to children.<br>
><br>> Teaching basic health and survival skills to kids is actually quite<br>> complex.<br>><br>> EKG's w/ the XO or the VistA healthcare suite are neat apps but not what<br>> is needed by most deployments.<br>
><br>> When I refer to "complex" I more precisely mean problems that are<br>> technically interesting but not directly not related to education for<br>> kids ages 6-12, OLPC's primary focus.<br>><br>
> Why didn't the Health Jam focus on getting folks to help w/ the<br>> development of these activities that you described?<br>><br>> Too many OLPC content projects are characterized by<br>> 1) Lots of great ideas<br>
> 2) Lack of focus<br>> 3) Lots of excitement, wiki pages, and e-mails<br>> 4) Not much output in terms of finished activities or activity bundles.<br>><br>> Sorry to be blunt but we need to change this.<br>
><br>><br>> On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 13:47 -0400, Samuel Klein wrote:<br>> > There's no contradiction between activities that are fun, or with<br>> > complex ideas behind them, and those that teach the most basic health<br>
> > and survival skills to children.<br>> ><br>> > There are three health-related games being proposed and worked on at<br>> > the moment that are good examples; all of which could use further<br>> > specific input. Food Force is closest to having something playable...<br>
> > pehaps Muriel and Deepank can say a bit more about its recent status.<br>> ><br>> > <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Water_Wonders" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Water_Wonders</a><br>> > <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Malnutrition" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Malnutrition</a><br>
> > <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Food_Force" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Food_Force</a><br>> ><br>> > SJ<br></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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