A warning:<br><br>I know we're all anxious to know how many slots OLPC will get. But just note the following message from
<a href="http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-discuss?hl=en">Google Summer of Code Discuss</a> : <br><br>"Mentors: To tell anyone they are accepted until they have been marked<br>
as ssuch on the webapp, before the appointed day, is one of the sure<br>
ways to make your organization -not- be invited back in subsequent<br>
years and to see your allocations reduced to 0."<br><br>I assume that also goes for any other promise they can't keep, like "we are guaranteed to get at least 8 slots this year." It's understandable, since Google will end up taking some of the blame for any broken promises. <br>
<br>So, we can ask for vaguely-worded encouragement or bad news, but until Monday, we should not even ask for anything definite.<br><br><a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Bityi/GSoC">Shameless</a>ly y'rs,<br>Jameson<a href="http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-discuss?hl=en" target="_blank"></a><br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Bobby Powers <<a href="mailto:bobbypowers@gmail.com">bobbypowers@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
thanks SJ, that sounds great. I know for <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OpenSim" target="_blank">myself</a> that I'd like to work on this over the summer to some extent and into next year if I get in or not, and having some tie to OLPC and a little green XO over the summer (for 2 conferences in the System Dynamics field, one exclusively for K-12 educators) would go a long way towards getting more funding and accelerating my efforts in the fall and beyond. I'm sure others have similar feelings!<br>
<br><div>yours,</div><div>Bobby Powers</div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Samuel Klein <<a href="mailto:meta.sj@gmail.com" target="_blank">meta.sj@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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We've been requesting 30 since they asked for an organization update last week, and at least /part/ of the interface (the part that mentors see) was updated with this information... I wrote to Leslie earlier today to find out what was up with the overall allocation. <br>
<br>If we commit to having two mentors available for each application, which leaves a healthy buffer of mentor-time, we could give detailed attention to more than 15. I pointed out that we have a few experts in their respective projects/fields from outside of OLPC offering to mentor student work, which is also a plus.<br>
<br>Meanwhile, I'm seeing if we can get XOs and automatic developer-program enrollment for the best applications that we don't have the slots to accept -- there are 40 projects that are truly interesting and should not be dropped, and have at least one talented mentor offering to support them.<br>
<br>SJ<div><div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero <<a href="mailto:dirakx@gmail.com" target="_blank">dirakx@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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Hi all<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Jameson Chema Quinn <<a href="mailto:jquinn@cs.oberlin.edu" target="_blank">jquinn@cs.oberlin.edu</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 4/14/08, <b class="gmail_sendername">Patrick Dubroy</b> <<a href="mailto:pdubroy@gmail.com" target="_blank">pdubroy@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">How many SoC slots have been requested by OLPC? In the SoC web app,<br>the "likely to be accepted" line seems to be around 30 applications.<br>
However, a friend who is signed up to mentor for another organization<br>said that Leslie Hawthorn sent a message to one of the SoC lists<br>saying that OLPC has only asked for 4 slots. Is this true? If so, that<br>seems awfully low.</blockquote>
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</div><div>I am just another student. However, until SJ replies, I can fill in the version of the rumor that I heard: Google has some magic AI which watches the traffic through the GSoC interface and guesses how many slots each organization is going to get. That AI is what came up with the number 4, which OLPC agrees is too low. It seems probable that when a human at Google reviews the situation, they will agree that the number is low. </div>
<div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br>yep it seems that the AI script is giving the 4 number atm , anyway there are more or less 60 more slots remaining to be given by google...so we will see. <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div>Of course, "something more than 4" is still a pretty wide range, and all of us students are dying to know about how many slots OLPC expects. Just going through the <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Category:GSoC_proposals" target="_blank">wiki category</a>, I can count at least 10 applications besides <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Bityi/GSoC" target="_blank">my own</a> that appear to me to be very well-thought-out and useful to OLPC; and I know that there are 3 or 4 that are not on the wiki that SJ has mentioned in lists of interesting projects. Based on that, I'd say it would be a real pity if there were fewer than 8, and probably 13 would plenty, so if I were voting the number should be somewhere in there. (speaking as a teacher, the standouts are ANN, Coding Tutor, Customizing Moodle, DrGeo, Elements, Garden Activity, and Water Wonders; there are others which might be great but the wiki pages are not clear enough for me to tell, and several others which are not oriented towards the classroom or have duplicate applications where I do not comment).</div>
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<div>I would love to hear something more definite from SJ on the numbers.</div>
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