Aaron, Simon,<br><br>I personally agree with you and I think my collegues from OLPC Croatia agree as well. We should start with that web portal/blog as soon as possible and make it like a real community portal. In parallel we should all have a meeting somewhere in April (Austria?) so we can discuss about concrete staff when we meet face to face. I belive we would be more productive if our development and other teams work together on particular/concrete projects regarding the pilot projects in this year in some countries.<br>
<br>Also, I don't think we should work on the OLPC Europe structure before someone from OLPC (prof. Negroponte?) says that it's ok and good idea. If they don't support that idea - then it's worthless. Does anyone have a concrete answer on that question?<br>
<br>Kristijan <br>- OLPC Croatia<br><br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">2008/3/6, Aaron Kaplan <<a href="mailto:aaron@lo-res.org">aaron@lo-res.org</a>>:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi!<br> <br> With all the discussion of olpc europe, how groups should get<br> organized etc.... here is something to read and ponder about.<br> We met in person for dinner (thx Helga!) and had to discuss a few<br> things face to face.<br>
Amongst them the argument between me and Chris about something called<br> olpc_europe which is not even clearly defined yet, but which was<br> already announced prematurely on <a href="http://heise.de">heise.de</a> (biggest IT related news<br>
source in all german speaking countries).<br> <br> So the whole group came together and he had this consensus finding<br> process.<br> In the end we arrived at the following... (interesting to read!)<br> <br> <br> <br> Begin forwarded message:<br>
<br> > From: Simon Dorner <<a href="mailto:office@simondorner.com">office@simondorner.com</a>><br> > Date: March 4, 2008 6:58:29 PM GMT+01:00<br> > To: olpc intern <<a href="mailto:olpcaustria-intern@tema.lo-res.org">olpcaustria-intern@tema.lo-res.org</a>><br>
> Subject: [Olpcaustria-intern] What we talked about last week...<br> ><br> > Hi everyone!<br> ><br> > So this is what i condensed out of our discussion last week:<br> ><br> > ---------------------------------<br>
><br> > As some of you might have noticed we at OLPC Austria had a quite<br> > heated discussion about OLPC Europe last week. Eventually the debate<br> > turned out to be worthwhile and we kind of reached a consensus on<br>
> what we suggest for OLPC Europe. I agreed to sum up our current<br> > thinking and send it out like this.<br> ><br> > We think that OLPC Europe is moving a bit too fast and it needs time<br> > to evolve more out of a number of strong local groups. The focus<br>
> should be to build and support those local groups first. Therefore we<br> > suggest that for the time being OLPC Europe should not yet be a fully<br> > defined and structured legal entity but rather a simple web platform<br>
> for people to get information about what's happening in their and<br> > other countries. There are two concrete things that we suggest:<br> ><br> > 1: Let's create an OLPC Europe web site that consists of an<br>
> aggregated blog of all the individual European groups. Every group<br> > that wants to join sets up a simple blog and all their news gets<br> > added to the main blog via RSS. That would be a great resource for<br>
> everyone and is enough for now.<br> > 2: We think that as long as OLPC Europe is just that, an aggregated<br> > blog with a common motto, it is absolutely crucial that everyone<br> > agrees not to use OLPC Europe as a means to generate funding. That<br>
> (along with some basic info text on the web site) must be in the<br> > small print and has to be agreed to in order to join. Money would<br> > bring chaos without the right structure - and it's really way too<br>
> early to talk about that structure.<br> ><br> > OLPC Europe as a structured legal entity can be founded when the time<br> > is right and the need for it and broad consensus are there. We also<br> > think that in order to create a legal organisation we should all meet<br>
> in person and talk.<br> ><br> > But first let's all get some work done locally. What do you think?<br> ><br> > ---------------------------------<br> ><br> > So what do you think?<br> ><br> > Simon.<br>
><br> ><br> > _______________________________________________<br> > Olpcaustria-intern mailing list<br> > <a href="mailto:Olpcaustria-intern@tema.lo-res.org">Olpcaustria-intern@tema.lo-res.org</a><br> > <a href="http://lists.lo-res.org/mailman/listinfo/olpcaustria-intern">http://lists.lo-res.org/mailman/listinfo/olpcaustria-intern</a><br>
><br> <br> --<br> L. Aaron Kaplan<br> <a href="http://nic.at">nic.at</a> // <a href="http://csirt.at">csirt.at</a> // <a href="http://cert.at">cert.at</a><br> <a href="mailto:kaplan@cert.at">kaplan@cert.at</a><br>
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