[Grassroots-l] NON-TECHY Indivual beginning a program in Kyrgyzstan...

Aaron Kaplan aaron at lo-res.org
Fri Apr 25 13:45:36 EDT 2008 

Nana,

in case you bring it to a mountain village in .kg (I have been  
traveling around there and I know the country a bit):
Usually in the villages they don't need solar for power. They do have  
power. Just sometimes it is gone. So extra car batteries might be a  
good idea.
You can get them there (for sure at least in Bishkek).

IMHO bring the russian version of wikipedia with you on some medium  
(external HD? )





On Apr 24, 2008, at 10:57 PM, Nan A. Canter wrote:

> Let's get to work.....
>
> I  have three (3) OLPC's as I call them...I am 63
> years old with NOt an inkling of what you all talk
> about.
>
> I am taking/donating my three (3) GOGO OLPC's to
> KYRGYZSTAN  this JUNE.  They will reside in an
> elementary school in a farming community in the
> eastern most corner, up in the mountains betwen
> Kazakstan and China. I ill only be bringing them.  I
> have no idea what they will be able to do....
>
> There is no internet access up there but there are
> internet cafes in the town about 2 hours away.  And we
> need a Cyrillic keyboard until they kids/teachers
> learn some english... which is part of what I hope
> they will get out of this adventure...
>
> I am looking for someone help us get started.  I want
> to put together an OLPC Kit to bring with basics so
> the kids/teachers can just start them themselves
> without the internet part.
>
> I hope to find someone who lives nearby to be the
> go-between with the school, the internet, and you
> folks.... someone who can downoad programs and bring
> them up and teach them.....
>
> I am in New York City.
>
> HELP!!!!! OUT THERE... PLEASE HAVE PITY ON US NON TECH
> FOLKS
>
> NANA
>
>
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>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Bryan Berry
>> <bryan.berry at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Our pilots at Bishwamitra and Bashuki schools
>> start this Friday and I
>>>  couldn't be more excited.
>>
>> I wish I were there.
>>
>>>  I find this discussion about the future of OLPC
>> frankly *annoying* and
>>>  tiresome.
>>
>> Ivan and Walter found the reality far more annoying
>> and tiresome than
>> our account of it is.
>>
>>>  The future of OLPC isn't at 1CC. It's at pilot
>> schools around
>>>  the world. It's in the hands of kids. The
>> software and hardware on the
>>>  XO are at mature point where we can really see
>> the impact on education.
>>>  Sugar needs a lot of work but it is functional
>> now, thanks to the heroic
>>>  efforts of many on the Sugar team.
>>
>> You are exactly right, and Nicholas and the
>> naysayers are dead wrong.
>> I'm looking forward to the time when the kids can
>> take over most of
>> the programming, most of the localization, and
>> pretty much all of the
>> strategy.
>>
>>>  The key question about participating in OLPC
>> shouldn't be what
>>>  Negroponte or Bender are up to, it should be what
>> Arjun Tamang uses his
>>>  XO for on Monday in Nepal or what Marisol
>> Gonzalez does w/ it in rural
>>>  Peru.
>>
>> Yes, it should be. But Nicholas doesn't see it that
>> way, and he has
>> interfered quite severely in getting the work done
>> here.
>>
>>>  As Bert says, Onward. There is much work to do.
>> Debating the future of
>>>  OLPC as an organization does little to advance
>> OLPC as a global movement
>>>  - which it very much is.
>>>
>>>  Roll up your sleeves folks, let's make this
>> happen.
>>
>> They won't go any higher. This is a work smarter,
>> not harder, moment.
>> If Nicholas is determined to pull resources off
>> Linux development and
>> turn them to Windows, disaster looms for OLPC. But
>> Sugar will be fine,
>> regardless, because most of the volunteers are
>> ignoring the kerfuffle
>> and continuing to code, test, and tweak. I'm still
>> recruiting
>> localizers and thinking about the design
>> possibilities for textbooks
>> and manuals for use on a ubiquitous hardware and
>> software platform.
>> And recruiting artists for one of them that I have
>> mostly worked out.
>>
>>>  Edward Cherlin: If OLPC the organization isn't
>> meeting your needs, start
>>>  your own. We started our own here in Nepal and it
>> was the best thing we
>>>  could have done.
>>
>> That's funny. I thought that's what _I_ said, about
>> forking Sugar.
>> Well, I haven't given up on Nicholas yet, so you're
>> going to have to
>> either put up with it or filter it. We're not
>> stopping the argument
>> until we get answers one way or another.
>>
>> Walter is currently thinking about what to create
>> and how. Mary Lou is
>> in the middle of Pixel Qi's A funding round with the
>> venture
>> capitalists. I don't know what Ivan is doing. But
>> I'm still here,
>> trying to get it through Nicholas's skull that _he_
>> is the problem
>> here. Right now he is dangerously close to, "When I
>> want to hear
>> _your_ opinion, I'll *tell* it to you."
>>
>> Thank you for your support.
>>
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>>>  Bryan W. Berry
>>>  Systems Engineer
>>>  OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org
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