I think I already wrote that, but my feeling is that Etoys is the right incubator thanks to its tile programming system (which, btw, is still complex for the average teacher, but still simpler than anything else).<br><br>However, I fell what is missing is:<br>
- more elaborated artefacts to design rich interactive content (i.e artifact like DrGeo) <br> - and an easy way to produce portable project document with such artefacts.<br><br>Hilaire<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/4/22 Edward Cherlin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:echerlin@gmail.com">echerlin@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Good stuff. We need this brought together for the Earth Treasury<br>
Digital Textbooks project, which Alan Kay and the Squeak Foundation<br>
are part of. We can start on the Wiki, and move to FLOSS Manuals when<br>
we have the material ready to convert to book form.<br>
<br>
My idea is that we need some developer documentation for Squeak,<br>
Scratch, PyGame, SciPy, and so on for creating educational content,<br>
and then we need more than 100 textbooks on all subjects for all grade<br>
levels. Any tools that we can create that would be intermediate<br>
between programming and static content are all to the good. For<br>
example, Walter Bender's Portfolio extensions to Turtle Art can be<br>
used to bring together any set of activities, with displayed text,<br>
sound, and other enhancements, in a straight-through sequence or with<br>
any degree of interactivity and programming. As soon as I can find a<br>
stable build to work with that includes this version of Turtle Art, I<br>
will start publishing lesson plans as Portfolios.<br>
<br>
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:09 AM, Bert Freudenberg <<a href="mailto:bert@freudenbergs.de">bert@freudenbergs.de</a>> wrote:<br>
> On 09.04.2009, at 06:49, Milan Zimmermann wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hi Bert,<br>
>><br>
>> This is very cool - I looked inside the FreeCell content viewer:<br>
><br>
> FreeCell activity, please. "Content viewer" does not really apply to<br>
> Etoys.<br>
><br>
>> this is basically an example that can be used to expose parts of<br>
>> Etoys for example, the speech synthetizer if it still exists, the<br>
>> painting tool, the MPeg player etc, as content or even activity<br>
><br>
> Right. I tried to communicate this several times before, but it seems<br>
> to be worth repeating ;) The first was in July 2007 in fact:<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/etoys/2007-July/000684.html" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/etoys/2007-July/000684.html</a><br>
><br>
> Anyway, you can rather easily make your own Squeak-based activity,<br>
> even on a Mac or Win box: select a .pr or .st file, and click the "XO"<br>
> button in the FileList. Voila. You get a skeleton activity that should<br>
> work out-of-the-box if you install it in Sugar. Then you still have to<br>
> manually edit it of course, replacing the default icon etc. but it's a<br>
> fine start and in fact exactly what I did for FreeCell.<br>
><br>
>> (although without the Suger interactions I guess), right?<br>
><br>
> It could have full Sugar interaction. From time to time I do explain<br>
> how to access the Journal from Squeak, that could be used to save/load<br>
> state. Same for network collaboration.<br>
><br>
> If you are interested we can work on extending the FreeCell activity<br>
> together. Like adding Journal save/resume.<br>
><br>
> - Bert -<br>
><br>
><br>
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