<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/strict.dtd"><html><head><meta name="qrichtext" content="1" /><style type="text/css">p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }</style></head><body style=" font-family:'Luxi Sans'; font-size:11pt; font-weight:400; font-style:normal;">ok, after fighting with virtualbox emulation (and eventually giving up), and incomplete SuSE Sugar version (also gave up, thanks Bert for suggestions there), I am testing Etoys in Sugar 0.84 installed on a stick right on the OLPC XO. <br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>Over all Etoys on 0.84 look good, but I will have to do more testing this weekend, so far I see:<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>Sugar Interaction Problems<br>
====================<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p> - If there are any Etoys activities in the Journal, the last actvity is picked up when I start Etoys from the menu Circle. This way, I can never see Etoys initial screen. I think this is what Bert mentioned. It is really annoying behavior, I assume it changed because of some changes in the Sugar container. This is really the only item I would (personally) consider a bad bug / behaviour. Can anyone make a rough comment what would need to be done to change this?<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p> - Etoys do not have Ctrl-Q / Ctrl-S for Quit / Save on the top right Controls. <br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p> - In shared mode, on the "network screen", Etoys is listed as "Gallery" (very minor)<br>
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<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p> - There is no sound - but I think there is be no sound on the OLPC running 0.84 from the stick<br>
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============<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p> - sound does not work(Sugar/OLPC Hardware at fault?)<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p> - video does not work(?Sugar/Hardware at fault?)<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p><p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>Over the weekend once I get more testing I will forward to squeakland as well,<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>Milan<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p><p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>On March 31, 2009, Bert Freudenberg wrote:<br>
> On 31.03.2009, at 08:36, Milan Zimmermann wrote:<br>
> > On March 27, 2009, Bert Freudenberg wrote:<br>
> > > Begin forwarded message:<br>
> > > > From: Simon Schampijer <simon@schampijer.de><br>
> > > > Date: 27. März 2009 12:00:32 MEZ<br>
> > > > To: Sugar Devel <sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org><br>
> > > > Subject: [Sugar-devel] Bugs are beautiful people (Volume 1)<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > We have one week left for our 0.84.2 Release [1]. This is our<br>
> ><br>
> > final<br>
> ><br>
> > > > update for 0.84.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > [1] http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Release/Roadmap#Schedule<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I'm curious: who ever tested Etoys in Sugar 0.84?<br>
> ><br>
> > Just trying to get a setup that will allow me to do that. So far all<br>
> > the confusing options failed in a ded end before I could try etoys.<br>
> > The closest came SuSE prebuild version http://en.opensuse.org/<br>
> > Sugar . but it does not have the Etoys activity, and browser does<br>
> > not work to install it.<br>
><br>
> Simply installing the activity would most likely not work anyway<br>
> because it would probably miss the base etoys package. You would have<br>
> to install the squeak-vm and etoys rpms (see etoys.laptop.org). They<br>
> should work but are not tested on SuSE.<br>
><br>
> But if you got Sugar 0.84 running this would at least help you getting<br>
> a picture of the scale of the changes ...<br>
><br>
> > Will try again tomorrow, Milan<br>
><br>
> Thanks :)<br>
><br>
> - Bert -<br>
><br>
><br>
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