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Is not possible to get the control after neither with Alt +. !?<BR>
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Most of students says EtoyFriendly is "too much shamefaced" for them, and <I>do menu item</I> is wonderful, this is clear for me.<BR>
Perhaps it is only a question of a specific balloon help at <I>do menu item</I> (not only the actual "do the menu item"), something like: ".... Warning: if..."<BR>
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cheers<BR>
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El mié, 22-10-2008 a las 15:01 -0700, Scott Wallace escribió:
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">On Oct 22, 2008, at 1:44 AM, antonio wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> at v4, etoys mode:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> - create an instance, of ellipse for example,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> - create a script with the order (cat. miscellaneous) do menu </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> item_adhere to edge...</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> - run the script</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> then (and not before) appear the menu with options (bottom, </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> left...) but you never more can clear of it.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Indeed.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">"Do menu item" offers the opportunity to execute any menu item </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">contained in an object's "halo menu" programatically.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Most menu items are fine to use this way, even in a ticking script, </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">because they simply execute. But some menu items result in a </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">secondary prompt or menu being put up, and when invoking such a menu </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">item in a continuously-running (ticking) script, the follow-on prompt </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">or menu will continuously be put up, so that your user will always be </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">in a state of needing to respond to the prompt or menu, thus denying </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">her the chance to do anything else interactively.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">So... There are various ways in etoys that you can "hose yourself", </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">particularly through injudicious use of a ticking script. This is a </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">good example.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">We could, case by case, try to reduce the number of such danger </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">points, but I don't think we can altogether eliminate them without </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">unacceptably limiting the expressive power of the system. (e.g. in </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">this example, there's no problem at all unless/until the user chooses </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">to set the script to "ticking"...)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">One proposal (from Yoshiki) to reduce the chance of abuse of "do menu </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">item" is not to offer "do menu item" in the viewer unless the </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">eToyFriendly flag is turned off. What do people think of that idea?</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Cheers,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> -- Scott</FONT>
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