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Thanks, Victor, <BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"><A HREF="http://squeak.educarex.es/Squeakpolis/38">http://squeak.educarex.es/Squeakpolis/38</A></FONT> is OK now.<BR>
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El mar, 27-05-2008 a las 12:00 -0400, etoys-request@lists.laptop.org escribió:
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Today's Topics:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> 1. Re: [Squeakland] Etoys documentation in Spanish (Yoshiki Ohshima)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> 2. Re: [Squeakland] Etoys documentation in Spanish (st?phane ducasse)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> 3. Re: [Squeakland] Etoys documentation in Spanish</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> (Offray Vladimir Luna C?rdenas)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> 4. Re: [squeak-dev] Re: [Squeakland] Etoys documentation in</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> Spanish (Victor Rodriguez)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> 5. Re: [squeak-dev] Re: [Squeakland] Etoys documentation in</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> Spanish (Victor Rodriguez)</FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Message: 1</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 12:54:05 -0700</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">From: Yoshiki Ohshima <<A HREF="mailto:yoshiki@vpri.org">yoshiki@vpri.org</A>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Subject: Re: [Etoys] [Squeakland] Etoys documentation in Spanish</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">To: etoys <<A HREF="mailto:etoys@laptop.org">etoys@laptop.org</A>>, <A HREF="mailto:squeakland@squeakland.org">squeakland@squeakland.org</A>,</FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000"> Thank you for the information.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> I edited the English page (<A HREF="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Etoys">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Etoys</A>) and made</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">a section for Spanish documentation. Please add more, and update the</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Spanish page as well! (There should be tons of more Etoys related</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">documentation. Or, perhaps linking to the presentations done at past</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">SqueakFests might be good.)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">-- Yoshiki</FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Message: 2</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 16:13:47 +0200</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">From: st?phane ducasse <<A HREF="mailto:ducasse@iam.unibe.ch">ducasse@iam.unibe.ch</A>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Subject: Re: [Etoys] [Squeakland] Etoys documentation in Spanish</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">To: Yoshiki Ohshima <<A HREF="mailto:yoshiki@vpri.org">yoshiki@vpri.org</A>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Cc: <A HREF="mailto:squeakland@squeakland.org">squeakland@squeakland.org</A>, etoys <<A HREF="mailto:etoys@laptop.org">etoys@laptop.org</A>>,</FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Message-ID: <<A HREF="mailto:73F9E30D-1D8A-4A66-BEEA-85043AC05F39@iam.unibe.ch">73F9E30D-1D8A-4A66-BEEA-85043AC05F39@iam.unibe.ch</A>></FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Excellent.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I really hope that these kids will really learned a lot!</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">For BotsInc I'm aware of a private spanish translation. I'm still </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">trying to negociate to get the</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">rights for the book.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">For squeakbyexample, I do not know the status of the translation.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Stef</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">On May 26, 2008, at 3:12 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Hello,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> I came back from an OLPC event held in Cambridge, MA and saw a lot</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> of people from Latin America countries. Uruguay and Peru are</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> officially deploying hundreds of thousands of XO laptops, and other</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> countries are trying to do similar or smaller scale pilot test. The</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> "vibe" (as Alan wrote) or the feeling of "making progress" was very</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> strong.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> During the event, I was asked a lot of times about documentation in</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Spanish. I know there are bunch of documentation done in Spanish (in</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Latin America and in Spain), but I couldn't point out many of them by</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> myself. I merely managed to point to the translation of the Powerful</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Ideas book but that was it.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> I think it would be nice to have a place to share these</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> documentations, and have a single location to look at. Let us say if</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> we have a good "documentation and curriculum" section on</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> <A HREF="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Etoys/lang-es">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Etoys/lang-es</A>, and people who have done</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> documentations in Spanish add theirs to it, that would be nice.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> If you think it is a good idea, please start the section on the wiki</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> and add the documentations? I will later check the page and let the</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> people who are doing deployment and contents making in these countries</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> know about it.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Thank you!</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> -- Yoshiki</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> _______________________________________________</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Squeakland mailing list</FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Message: 3</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:17:19 -0500</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">From: Offray Vladimir Luna C?rdenas         <<A HREF="mailto:offray.luna@javeriana.edu.co">offray.luna@javeriana.edu.co</A>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Subject: Re: [Etoys] [Squeakland] Etoys documentation in Spanish</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Cc: <A HREF="mailto:squeakland@squeakland.org">squeakland@squeakland.org</A>, etoys <<A HREF="mailto:etoys@laptop.org">etoys@laptop.org</A>>,</FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Hi all,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">st?phane ducasse escribi?:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Excellent.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> I really hope that these kids will really learned a lot!</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> For BotsInc I'm aware of a private spanish translation. I'm still </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> trying to negociate to get the</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> rights for the book.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Please, tell us when you get it back. I'm using your book with my </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">students, but having a free/open version would be very helpful.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> For squeakbyexample, I do not know the status of the translation.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">We have finished the first chapter and preamble, but until mid-year </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">vacations will not be much advances. I will keep you posted in this </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Spanish Squeak related pages in our FLOSS community wiki:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> * <A HREF="http://www.el-directorio.org/SqueakMedianteEjemplos">http://www.el-directorio.org/SqueakMedianteEjemplos</A> <-- For Squeak </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">By Example translation related info.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> * <A HREF="http://www.el-directorio.org/Squeak">http://www.el-directorio.org/Squeak</A> <-- An intro to Squeak.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> * <A HREF="http://www.el-directorio.org/Squeak/Enlaces">http://www.el-directorio.org/Squeak/Enlaces</A> <-- Links with </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">information about Squeak (education, programming, GUI, etc)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> * <A HREF="http://www.el-directorio.org/CategorySqueak">http://www.el-directorio.org/CategorySqueak</A> <-- List all the pages in </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">the Squeak category: people, blogs, related projects: plopp, croquet and </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">so on.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I really hope to have more of the translation in the first days of July.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Cheers,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Offray</FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Message: 4</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:53:11 -0400</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">From: "Victor Rodriguez" <<A HREF="mailto:victor.palique@gmail.com">victor.palique@gmail.com</A>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Subject: Re: [Etoys] [squeak-dev] Re: [Squeakland] Etoys documentation</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">        in        Spanish</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">        <<A HREF="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org">squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org</A>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Cc: <A HREF="mailto:squeakland@squeakland.org">squeakland@squeakland.org</A>, etoys <<A HREF="mailto:etoys@laptop.org">etoys@laptop.org</A>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Message-ID:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">        <<A HREF="mailto:3bee9c1d0805270653y6ad2b1abi78b15e9b3778070a@mail.gmail.com">3bee9c1d0805270653y6ad2b1abi78b15e9b3778070a@mail.gmail.com</A>></FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Kim Rose <<A HREF="mailto:kim.rose@vpri.org">kim.rose@vpri.org</A>> wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Yoshiki,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> There is an excellent list of books in Spanish on the "Squeakoplis site"</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> here: (Perhaps this is the same place you found the "Powerful Ideas" book,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> though?)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> <A HREF="http://squeak.educarex.es/Squeakpolis/38">http://squeak.educarex.es/Squeakpolis/38</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Unfortunately many of the links on that page are to small-land.org,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">which now belongs to cybersquatters. Hopefully the material is still</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">available somewhere...</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Saludos,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Victor Rodriguez.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> -- Kim</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> On May 25, 2008, at 6:12 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> Hello,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> I came back from an OLPC event held in Cambridge, MA and saw a lot</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> of people from Latin America countries. Uruguay and Peru are</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> officially deploying hundreds of thousands of XO laptops, and other</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> countries are trying to do similar or smaller scale pilot test. The</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> "vibe" (as Alan wrote) or the feeling of "making progress" was very</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> strong.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> During the event, I was asked a lot of times about documentation in</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> Spanish. I know there are bunch of documentation done in Spanish (in</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> Latin America and in Spain), but I couldn't point out many of them by</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> myself. I merely managed to point to the translation of the Powerful</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> Ideas book but that was it.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> I think it would be nice to have a place to share these</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> documentations, and have a single location to look at. Let us say if</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> we have a good "documentation and curriculum" section on</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> <A HREF="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Etoys/lang-es">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Etoys/lang-es</A>, and people who have done</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> documentations in Spanish add theirs to it, that would be nice.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> If you think it is a good idea, please start the section on the wiki</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> and add the documentations? I will later check the page and let the</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> people who are doing deployment and contents making in these countries</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> know about it.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> Thank you!</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> -- Yoshiki</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> _______________________________________________</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> Squeakland mailing list</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> <A HREF="mailto:Squeakland@squeakland.org">Squeakland@squeakland.org</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> <A HREF="http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland">http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Message: 5</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:54:03 -0400</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">From: "Victor Rodriguez" <<A HREF="mailto:victor.palique@gmail.com">victor.palique@gmail.com</A>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Subject: Re: [Etoys] [squeak-dev] Re: [Squeakland] Etoys documentation</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">        in        Spanish</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">        <<A HREF="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org">squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org</A>></FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Message-ID:</FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 10:13 AM, st?phane ducasse <<A HREF="mailto:ducasse@iam.unibe.ch">ducasse@iam.unibe.ch</A>> wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">...</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> For squeakbyexample, I do not know the status of the translation.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Is there an ongoing effort to translate SBE to Spanish?</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Victor.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Stef</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> On May 26, 2008, at 3:12 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> Hello,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> I came back from an OLPC event held in Cambridge, MA and saw a lot</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> of people from Latin America countries. Uruguay and Peru are</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> officially deploying hundreds of thousands of XO laptops, and other</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> countries are trying to do similar or smaller scale pilot test. The</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> "vibe" (as Alan wrote) or the feeling of "making progress" was very</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> strong.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> During the event, I was asked a lot of times about documentation in</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> Spanish. I know there are bunch of documentation done in Spanish (in</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> Latin America and in Spain), but I couldn't point out many of them by</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> myself. I merely managed to point to the translation of the Powerful</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> Ideas book but that was it.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> I think it would be nice to have a place to share these</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> documentations, and have a single location to look at. Let us say if</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> we have a good "documentation and curriculum" section on</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> <A HREF="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Etoys/lang-es">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Etoys/lang-es</A>, and people who have done</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> documentations in Spanish add theirs to it, that would be nice.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> If you think it is a good idea, please start the section on the wiki</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> and add the documentations? I will later check the page and let the</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> people who are doing deployment and contents making in these countries</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> know about it.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> Thank you!</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> -- Yoshiki</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> _______________________________________________</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> Squeakland mailing list</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> <A HREF="mailto:Squeakland@squeakland.org">Squeakland@squeakland.org</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> <A HREF="http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland">http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
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