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<br>Actually, Palm Springs has been doing a One-to-One computer project in some of their classrooms using Macs. I went to their presentation at CUE. They have some great ideas for using the machines with the students that are related to the standards-based curriculum. Some of these could be adapted/adopted to Sugar. <br><br>Their Asst. technology person was there and said she know that attendance had improved. She has promised to send me data on what is happening with their test scores. Maybe I should send her a reminder.<br><br>Caryl<br><br>> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:17:46 -0700<br>> From: echerlin@gmail.com<br>> To: educators@lists.laptop.org<br>> CC: support-gang@lists.laptop.org<br>> Subject: Re: [Educators] World Bank study on computer use, February 2009<br>> <br>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho@hotmail.com> wrote:<br>> > Hi Yama,<br>> ><br>> > I went back and looked at the BID report again this morning. It seems to be<br>> > a pastiche of stuff gathered from many sources:<br>> ><br>> > They have some stats on internet use by students in several countries<br>> > identified only by a title with no source listed:<br>> > Generación Interactiva: 25.476 estudiantes de Argentina,<br>> > Brasil, Chile Colombia, México, Perú y Venezuela<br>> ><br>> > Some comments on the impact of technology in the classroom from a 2006<br>> > publication (poorly sourced)<br>> ><br>> > Some statements related to standardized test results, evidently in Colombia,<br>> > but no hard data (this is where the "confidence=competency" comment comes<br>> > in).<br>> ><br>> > Excerpts from someone's Powerpoint presentation in English with no comments<br>> > relating it to results, it just seems to be about the structure of a<br>> > hypothetical project.<br>> ><br>> > "Evaluations" of pre-pilots in Haiti and Paraguay based on "perceptions"<br>> ><br>> > Graphs of attention span data from Haiti...no before and after, no<br>> > information on how it was measured.<br>> ><br>> > In short...this report is pretty useless. I apologize for not seeing that<br>> > yesterday.<br>> ><br>> > Now the big question: Why isn't someone doing a real study of how our<br>> > deployments are working? Certainly there are many grad students out there<br>> > looking for a topic for their dissertation who would love to make this their<br>> > project.<br>> <br>> +1<br>> <br>> > What is preventing this from happening?<br>> <br>> Columbia University Teachers College is studying the New York<br>> deployments. There was a report last year of a Swiss study on the<br>> costs of deployments.<br>> <br>> I have been arguing for a program of research for two years. It is in<br>> the Earth Treasury mission. I consider the lack of such studies to be<br>> another instance of Nicholas's mismanagement of the entire program.<br>> <br>> > Caryl<br>> ><br>> >> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:10:11 -0500<br>> >> From: yama@netoso.com<br>> >> To: educators@lists.laptop.org<br>> >> Subject: Re: [Educators] World Bank study on computer use, February 2009<br>> >><br>> >> Hi Caryl!<br>> >><br>> >> This WB study<br>> >> http://tinyurl.com/d3gtto<br>> >> is a source used in the BID presentation that came to Sur's attention<br>> >> yesterday<br>> >> http://people.sugarlabs.org/rafael/TICSenEducacion.pdf<br>> >><br>> >> I got it by contacting the author of the BID presentation, Eugenio<br>> >> Severin.<br>> >> Mirian Gregori of Sur is asking for the one about Uruguay and especially<br>> >> Brazil, or maybe there is another I do not know of? I have no idea<br>> >> about one focusing on Uruguay specially.<br>> >> Could you help us find that one?<br>> >><br>> >> I wonder how the BID study you mention would measure "confidence", and<br>> >> how come that is a valid criterium for anything. It would not surprise<br>> >> me that they found a correlation between "self-confidence" and test<br>> >> results, and I would dare to guess that correlation would also hold<br>> >> positive for family income and two-parent home, which simply would prove<br>> >> that kids that have are better off will be better off...<br>> >><br>> >> But I am guessing too much :-)<br>> >><br>> >> Thanks!<br>> >><br>> >> Yama<br>> >><br>> >> Caryl Bigenho wrote:<br>> >> > Hi Yama,<br>> >> ><br>> >> > This study seems to be a different one from the one circulating on the<br>> >> > olpc-sur list from the BID. Similar results, but interesting stats on<br>> >> > computer use by the students in several Latin American countries. It<br>> >> > was released in March and concentrated on Uruguay for much of its data.<br>> >> > The WB study seems to concentrate on Colombia.<br>> >> ><br>> >> > The BID study says students who feel more confident of their computer<br>> >> > skills also do better in their subjects (tests?). Is this a "chicken<br>> >> > and egg" situation? Probably!<br>> >> ><br>> >> > Caryl<br>> >> ><br>> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> >> > Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:41:06 -0500<br>> >> > From: yama@netoso.com<br>> >> > To: educators@lists.laptop.org<br>> >> > Subject: [Educators] World Bank study on computer use, February 2009<br>> >> ><br>> >> > Earlier this year it was announced there was a momentous World Bank<br>> >> > study to be published. We were warned it might be quite negative to the<br>> >> > OLPC project.<br>> >> ><br>> >> > If this is that study, I find it very tame, nothing new really, and<br>> >> > nothing we cannot improve - if we want and dare to see reality.<br>> >> > /<br>> >> > /*http://tinyurl.com/d3gtto*<br>> >> ><br>> >> > http://econ.worldbank.org/external/default/main?pagePK=64165259&piPK=64165421&theSitePK=469372&menuPK=64166093&entityID=000158349_20090211111507<br>> >> ><br>> >> > <http://econ.worldbank.org/external/default/main?pagePK=64165259&piPK=64165421&theSitePK=469372&menuPK=64166093&entityID=000158349_20090211111507><br>> >> ><br>> >> > yes, computers in education are mostly useless, doh, unless they are<br>> >> > integrated to the existing process. Why don't people focus on that, I<br>> >> > don't know. (BTW, to integrate them to the teaching process, supporting<br>> >> > the teachers' work, is the approach we expect to use within OLE Bolivia)<br>> >> > (another BTW, talking with an international expert of UNICEF in Bolivia<br>> >> > I was told she had never seen something like that kind of integration,<br>> >> > ever, anywhere - go figure, seems /*so*/ obvious!)<br>> >> ><br>> >> > Just to spell out what I am talking about right here,<br>> >> > constructivism/ionism is /*not*/ connected to the educational process.<br>> >> ><br>> >> > My emphasis,<br>> >> > from the abstract,<br>> >> > / "Overall, the program seems to have had little<br>> >> > effect on students’ test scores and other outcomes. These<br>> >> > results are consistent across grade levels, subjects, and<br>> >> > gender. *The main reason for these results seems to be the<br>> >> > failure to incorporate the computers into the educational<br>> >> > process.*"/<br>> >> ><br>> >> > from the text,<br>> >> > "/ *The main reason for these results may be the implementation<br>> >> > of the program*. Surveys of both teachers and students suggest that the<br>> >> > program increases<br>> >> > computer use among students and teachers by a surprising small amount,<br>> >> > and most of the<br>> >> > use of computers by students is for the purposes of learning to use a<br>> >> > computer rather than<br>> >> > studying language. Additionally, the extra computer use reported by<br>> >> > teachers is<br>> >> > concentrated in the lower grades with older students’ teachers reporting<br>> >> > almost no<br>> >> > computer use in both groups."<br>> >> ><br>> >> > /<br>> >> ><br>> >> > <http://econ.worldbank.org/external/default/main?pagePK=64165259&piPK=64165421&theSitePK=469372&menuPK=64166093&entityID=000158349_20090211111507><br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> >> ><br>> >> > _______________________________________________<br>> >> > Educators mailing list<br>> >> > Educators@lists.laptop.org<br>> >> > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/educators<br>> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >> Educators mailing list<br>> >> Educators@lists.laptop.org<br>> >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/educators<br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > Educators mailing list<br>> > Educators@lists.laptop.org<br>> > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/educators<br>> ><br>> ><br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -- <br>> Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name<br>> And Children are my nation.<br>> The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination.<br>> http://earthtreasury.net/ (Edward Mokurai Cherlin)<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Educators mailing list<br>> Educators@lists.laptop.org<br>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/educators<br></body>
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