<div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: "James Cameron" <<a href="mailto:james@tooraweenah.com">james@tooraweenah.com</a>><br>Date: Aug 4, 2015 7:39 PM<br>Subject: Re: [support-gang] intermittent keyboard mismapping: 13.2.5 on XO-1 SKU39<br>To: "Gonzalo Odiard" <<a href="mailto:gonzalo@sugarlabs.org">gonzalo@sugarlabs.org</a>><br>Cc: "Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to help AT <a href="http://laptop.org">laptop.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a>>, "Danny Hembree" <<a href="mailto:danny-hembree@dynamical.org">danny-hembree@dynamical.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gluna@goodshepherdshelter.org">gluna@goodshepherdshelter.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gluna@goodshepherdshelter.org">gluna@goodshepherdshelter.org</a>>, "Devel's in the Details" <<a href="mailto:devel@laptop.org">devel@laptop.org</a>><br><br type="attribution">G'day Gonzalo,<br>
<br>
Thanks for the reminder. Yes, it matches somewhat with #11223 and<br>
#11468, especially the mapping of the keys that Adam observes.<br>
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<a href="https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11223" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11223</a><br>
<a href="https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11468" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11468</a><br>
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No fix is possible at the moment, but changing procedure works fine.<br>
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p.s. my posts are not getting through to devel@ or support-gang@ due<br>
to the DNS damage affecting <a href="http://laptop.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">laptop.org</a>.<br>
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On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 03:17:02PM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:<br>
> I don't think the error reported by Alan is related with the last (or latest)<br>
> builds at all.<br>
> This is related to a very old bug, I was looking but couldn't find the ticket.<br>
><br>
> Gonzalo <br>
><br>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Caryl Bigenho <[1]<a href="mailto:cbigenho@hotmail.com">cbigenho@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi…<br>
><br>
> So… the XO-1s at the project we have at a school at a women's shelter in<br>
> central Los Angeles will be updated in the next couple of weeks, getting<br>
> ready for September school start. What would be the safest build for them<br>
> to use? I won't be there to help, but it is in good hands with one of our<br>
> SoCal volunteers. I just want to make it easy for everything to go<br>
> smoothly.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Carul<br>
><br>
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> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:28:23 -0400<br>
> From: [2]<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org">holt@laptop.org</a><br>
> To: [3]<a href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a>; [4]<a href="mailto:devel@laptop.org">devel@laptop.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [support-gang] intermittent keyboard mismapping: 13.2.5 on<br>
> XO-1 SKU39<br>
><br>
> Just an update that I've narrowed in on the/a pattern which triggers the<br>
> problem, with the help of James Cameron, and some workarounds:<br>
> □ Tapping the ESC key very rapidly during bootup causes the keyboard<br>
> mismapping (and hence, failure to enter Open Firmware).<br>
> □ Holding down the ESC key during bootup (generally, but not always)<br>
> avoids the problem (entering Open Firmware).<br>
> □ Typing no keys at all during initial bootup, appears (I hope) to be a<br>
> workaround to boot the OS properly, with keyboard functioning properly.<br>
> Better yet, earlier firmware (e.g. q2e41 in this case) does not appear to<br>
> show the problem at all, so newer firmware may be available in future to<br>
> solve this annoying-but-less-serious-that-I-imagined problem. For all<br>
> using SKU39 XO-1s (or perhaps other/similar XO laptops having the modern<br>
> touchpad?)<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 7:03 PM, Adam Holt <[5]<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org">holt@laptop.org</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> I haven't figured out the pattern yet, but perhaps 50% of the time<br>
> these XO-1s boot with an unusable keyboard (it's a "US Intl" keyboard,<br>
> but the keys end up mapped to all the wrong places, showing the wrong<br>
> letters/numbers, such that not even the ESC key works to get to the Ok<br>
> prompt).<br>
><br>
> This pattern arises with "vanilla" 13.2.5 (without SD cards) as well as<br>
> 13.2.5 with SD cards. In other words both of these:<br>
><br>
> [6]<a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/13.2.5#XO-1" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/13.2.5#XO-1</a><br>
> [7]<a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/13.2.5#XO-1_with_SD_card" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/13.2.5#XO-1_with_SD_card</a><br>
><br>
> Running the "bye" command at the Ok prompt seems to trigger the problem<br>
> almost every time (possibly every time?). But that is not the only<br>
> thing that triggers the problem. Sometimes the XO just boots with<br>
> unusable keyboard, repeatedly. Then when I try to hit ESC on boot 20<br>
> times in a row, I cannot reproduce the problem at other times. Problem<br>
> occurs on all SKU39 XO-1s I've tried so far.<br>
><br>
> I've not yet tried other SKU's. My testing has only just begun, to see<br>
> if this same problem occurs with (both) 13.2.4 OS's and earlier.<br>
><br>
> Any tips for debugging / identifying the source of this quite serious<br>
> gremlin? What should I and my small team of debugging volunteers look<br>
> out for and try? And I'll do more work on this when I get back home<br>
> late tonight, but all thoughts appreciated-<br>
><br>
> (Also, any recommendations as to which older builds are best, as an<br>
> interim workaround?)<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ [8]<a href="http://unleashkids.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://unleashkids.org</a> !<br>
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> References:<br>
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> [1] mailto:<a href="mailto:cbigenho@hotmail.com">cbigenho@hotmail.com</a><br>
> [2] mailto:<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org">holt@laptop.org</a><br>
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> [5] mailto:<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org">holt@laptop.org</a><br>
> [6] <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/13.2.5#XO-1" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/13.2.5#XO-1</a><br>
> [7] <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/13.2.5#XO-1_with_SD_card" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/13.2.5#XO-1_with_SD_card</a><br>
> [8] <a href="http://unleashkids.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://unleashkids.org/</a><br>
> [9] mailto:<a href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a><br>
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James Cameron<br>
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