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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><small>Hi, on SHC 205002233<br>
running 13.1.0 for XO-1.75 (build 20)<br>
with Sugar 0.98.2<br>
firmware Q4D24<br>
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For Text in both Write and Turtle Art (the Title panel):<br>
vowel + altgr - gives the Combining Macron, i.e. two bkspcs
to remove the letter<br>
But if either Activity is saved to the Journal and we write into
its Description panel<br>
vowel + altgr - gives the Unicode version, i.e. one bksp
removes the letter.<br>
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So we do have the right behavior in there somewhere.<br>
-- barry<br>
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On 25/06/2013 12:13 a.m., Walter Bender wrote:<br>
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On 24 June 2013 06:43, Walter Bender <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com"><walter.bender@gmail.com></a> wrote:
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Which build are you running? In the latest Sugar builds, there is a
keyboard settings control panel section. We could probably backport it
to your build if it is reasonably recent.
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In OLPC's & Dextrose's versions of sugar the sugar-cp-keyboard rpm doesn't
get installed. Think there is a conflict over the keyboard with
olpc-configure supplied by olpc-utils.
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I can poke around to see if I can get it to work.
-walter
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Meanwhile, we may have to make a new X keyboard symbols file for you
that does the right thing. Not impossible to get upstreamed.
regards.
-walter
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Tom Parker <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tom@carrott.org"><tom@carrott.org></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hi,
I'm looking at how you enter a macron for Māori language users.
It seems that the olpc us international keyboard binds a ̄ COMBINING
MACRON
(unicode U+0304) to algr + hyphan. When typed after the letter a you get
ā
which is similar to but not the same as ā LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH
MACRON
(unicode U+0101).
Issues I've noted with a small amount of testing:
On older builds, Write does not correctly load files containing the
combining macron.
The combining macron is not rendered at the correct height for lower
case
letters. (on older builds this seems to be the case all the time, on
newer
builds, it is rendered correctly after loading a file until you delete a
following character the on the same line, then it jumps up)
You can have more than one combining macron, they stack.
You have to delete twice, once to delete the macron and again to delete
the
character.
Have these issues come up before? I don't see any. I will raise tickets
for
the bugs rendering the macron in the latest version of write shortly.
I'm
not sure if anyone wants a ticket for older builds? Obviously stacking
macrons is by-design when using the combining macron character (see
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://twitter.com/glitchr_/">https://twitter.com/glitchr_/</a> for more improbable outcomes of combining
characters, perhaps your browser will crash).
I haven't yet experimented with entering the ā U+0101 characters into
sugar
(tomorrow!)
Apparently on Windows, the Māori keyboard is set up such that when you
hit
the grave (apparently this is what I have always called the backtick)
key
and then one of the vowels, you get the macron version of the vowel. I
haven't seen this in action but Māori typists claim it is very
efficient.
Gnome on Ubuntu on my laptop binds right-alt-a to ā U+0101 when using
the
Māori keyboard layout. I'm not sure how Maori typists feel about this
inconsistency with windows.
When you choose the language in sugar, can this change the keyboard
layout
too? If not, what is the recommended way to configure this?
How complex is it to change the localization of the keyboard for the
Maori
language? The xkb files don't look too complicated. Is the grave - vowel
=
macron vowel possible while still preserving the backtick for shell
scripting? I haven't seen the laptops in question but I'm told they have
the
Australian simplified key caps, so changing the existing alt-gr mappings
to
render macron vowels (ie to mimic the Maori keyboard option on
Gnome-Ubuntu)
instead of the existing mappings won't confuse the key caps.
Obviously touching all the laptops to change how the keyboard works is a
pain and the change is potentially erased by future updates.
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