<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> ----- Mensaje reenviado -----<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">De:</span></b> Barry Newell <barry.newell@anu.edu.au><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Para:</span></b> Melina Coronel <melina_coronel@yahoo.com.ar> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">CC:</span></b> Katrina Proust <katrina.proust@anu.edu.au> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Enviado:</span></b> lunes, 8 de octubre de 2012 18:35<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Asunto:</span></b> Re: "Turtle Confusion" en Español<br> </font> </div> <br><div
id="yiv1630228651">Hi Melina<div><br></div><div>I find this all very exciting!</div><div><br></div><div>You all have given me the push that I needed to do something about the excess difficulty of the riddles (a common problem with inexperienced puzzle setters).</div><div>And you are right ... given that the riddles make use of play on words, it will indeed be a fine challenge.</div><div>I will be delighted to work with you.</div><div><br></div><div>You certainly have my permission to translate Turtles Speak Mathematics. I look forward to hearing of your efforts.</div><div><br></div><div>I would like to know more about you. Do you have a short biography ... or can you tell me a little about yourself.</div><div>It has occurred to me that my wife (Katrina Proust) and I would enjoy a visit to your team at some stage. Not sure when we could do it, but it would undoubtedly be fun.</div><div><br></div><div>Best
wishes</div><div>Barry</div><div><br></div><div><br><span>On 10/09/12, <b class="yiv1630228651name">Melina Coronel </b> <melina_coronel@yahoo.com.ar> wrote:</span><blockquote class="yiv1630228651iwcQuote" style="border-left:1px solid #00F;padding-left:13px;margin-left:0;" type="cite"><div class="yiv1630228651mimepart yiv1630228651text yiv1630228651html"><span><div></div><table><tbody><tr><td><div></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><div><span>Barry! Thank you for taking the time to have look at the final product :) (and sending your congratulations!) It means a lot to us! (I am sure I can speak on Manuel's behalf, too!) </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>We are delighted with
the results and the responses so far!!!</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><span style="font-size:12pt;">This was the first time I worked translating a book, and using repositories, I'd never have been able if it hadn't been for Manuel. I am pleased with the team work, the investigation, the asking for help...So, </span>I offer my help for the translation of the Teacher's guide you are planning to write to help us all solve the riddles. </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><br></div><div
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; ">Making the most of the language to help us understand the meaning of the riddles in Spanish will make a fine challenge!!!!</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; ">So, you can count on us to translate the teacher's guide, when you have it ready that is ...</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><br></div><div>We are about to start with the translation of Turtles Speak Mathematics, as
you know, if we have your permission. You will be having more news from us, in the near future. </div><div><br></div><div>Kindest regards!</div><div><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; ">Melina</div> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">De:</span></b> Barry Newell <barry.newell@anu.edu.au><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Para:</span></b> Manuel Kaufmann <humitos@gmail.com>; Python Argentina <pyar@python.org.ar>; sugar-devel <sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org>; SugarLabs ARG <argentina@lists.laptop.org>; OLPC Devel <devel@lists.laptop.org>;
OLPC <olpc-uruguay@lists.laptop.org>; olpc-sur@lists.laptop.org <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">CC:</span></b> Flavio Danesse <fdanesse@gmail.com>; Melina Coronel <melina_coronel@yahoo.com.ar>; Sandra Bayona <smm_b@ymail.com>; Leonardo De Luca <leo@kde.org.ar>; Manuel Quiñones <manuq@laptop.org>; Gonzalo Odiard <gonzalo@laptop.org>; Walter Bender
<walter.bender@gmail.com>; Alvar Maciel <alvarmaciel@gmail.com>; Roberto Alsina <ralsina@netmanagers.com.ar>; Carlos Glücklich <carlos_glucklich@yahoo.com.ar>; César Ballardini <cesar.ballardini@gmail.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Enviado:</span></b> lunes, 8 de octubre de 2012 3:51<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Asunto:</span></b> Re: "Turtle Confusion" en Español<br> </font> </div> <br><div id="yiv1630228651">Congratulations to All!<div><br></div><div>The end product is excellent!</div><div><br></div><div>As you know, the riddles in Turtle Confusion were written assuming that the task of solving them would be undertaken by a team of upper-high-school students, their teachers and their parents.</div><div>In general it is hard to organise such a capable riddle-solving team, and maintain it over a period of time, and so such team work has not usually been undertaken.</div><div>But, as they stand,
the riddles are impossible for young students to solve, far too hard for most high-school students, and even very difficult for most adults.</div><div><br></div><div>Solving the riddles requires some insight into my particular worldview, and there is not enough clear text in TC to provide that insight.</div><div>I have long felt the need to write a teacher's guide to the riddles – I have not done so because of the pressure of other work.</div><div>The effort that you and your colleagues have put into this project, and the high quality of the end result, have prompted me to go ahead and produce the guide to the riddles.</div><div>I will not be able to do it quickly, but I will keep you updated on my progress. I will, unfortunately, have to write it in English.</div><div><br></div><div>The production of a teacher's guide will serve another purpose.</div><div>It will help us to make sure that the riddles still work after translation into
Spanish.</div><div><br></div><div>Best wishes and, once again, my congratulations.</div><div><br></div><div>Barry</div><div><br><span>On 10/08/12, <b class="yiv1630228651name">Manuel Kaufmann </b> <humitos@gmail.com> wrote:</span><blockquote class="yiv1630228651iwcQuote" style="border-left:1px solid #00F;padding-left:13px;margin-left:0;" type="cite"><div class="yiv1630228651mimepart yiv1630228651text yiv1630228651plain">= Versión en Español =<br><br>Hola a todos,<br><br>Les escribo para anunciar la publicación oficial de la traducción al<br>Español del libro de Barry Newell, "Turtle Confusion". La misma se<br>puede encontrar en su versión OnLine[1] o también en su versión en<br>PDF[2].<br><br>Estamos muy contentos de finalmente hacer ésta publicación ya que se<br>hizo un esfuerzo muy grande para llevarla adelante y creemos que es un<br>libro muy útil en el mundo de la programación y la educación.<br><br>¡Espero que le sirva a muchos
docentes, alumnos, padres y a quien sea!<br><br>= English Version =<br><br>Hi all,<br><br>I'm writing to announce the official publication of the Spanish<br>translation of the book "Turtle Consfusion" by Barry Newell. This<br>translation can be found in its OnLine version[1] and in its PDF[2]<br>version as well.<br><br>We are very happy of finally being able to do this publication because a great<br>effort has been done to make it possible and we believe that this book is<br>really useful in the programming and educational world.<br><br>We hope that many teachers, students, parents and anyone can benefit from it!<br><br>[1] <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://turtle-confusion-spanish-version.readthedocs.org/">http://turtle-confusion-spanish-version.readthedocs.org</a><br>[2] <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
href="https://github.com/downloads/humitos/turtle-confusion-es/la-confusion-de-la-tortuga.pdf">https://github.com/downloads/humitos/turtle-confusion-es/la-confusion-de-la-tortuga.pdf</a><br><br><br>-- <br>Kaufmann Manuel<br>Blog: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://humitos.wordpress.com/">http://humitos.wordpress.com/</a><br>Porfolio: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://fotos.mkaufmann.com.ar/">http://fotos.mkaufmann.com.ar/</a><br>PyAr: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.python.com.ar/">http://www.python.com.ar/</a><br></div></blockquote>--<br>Dr. Barry Newell<br>Adj. Associate Professor, Research School of Engineering<br>and Visiting Fellow, Fenner School of Environment & Society<br>The Australian National University, Canberra, ACT, Australia<br>Phone +61 2 6281 6058 Mobile 0488 572 309<br>https://researchers.anu.edu.au/researchers/newell-eb<div>E: barry.newell@anu.edu.au<br><div><i><br></i></div><div><i>The
single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place.</i></div><div> George Bernard Shaw<br></div></div></div>
</div><br><br> </div> </div> </div></td></tr></tbody></table><div></div></span></div></blockquote>--<br>Dr. Barry Newell<br>Adj. Associate Professor, Research School of Engineering<br>and Visiting Fellow, Fenner School of Environment & Society<br>The Australian National University, Canberra, ACT, Australia<br>Phone +61 2 6281 6058 Mobile 0488 572 309<br>https://researchers.anu.edu.au/researchers/newell-eb<div>E: barry.newell@anu.edu.au<br><div><i><br></i></div><div><i>The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place.</i></div><div> George Bernard Shaw<br></div></div></div>
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