Thank you very much John for the explanation and all the help. :) G'day.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 9:33 AM, John Watlington <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wad@laptop.org" target="_blank">wad@laptop.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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NANDBlaster uses a fixed transmit speed (modulation).<br>
If the signal budget for a laptop isn't sufficient to support<br>
that speed, it will fail to receive many packets.<br>
<br>
When using normal WiFi, the transmit speed (modulation)<br>
is decreased until reliable communication can be obtained ---<br>
therefore a laptop with decreased signal budget (e.g. bad antenna)<br>
may still work, although with degraded performance.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
John<br>
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On Jul 9, 2012, at 11:10 PM, James Cameron wrote:<br>
<br>
> That the antenna change did not work shows the problem is in the<br>
> wireless card.<br>
><br>
> You asked why not use the same mechanism as Sugar?<br>
><br>
> Consider the transmitter performance.<br>
><br>
> Your network used by Sugar probably has an access point with higher<br>
> transmit power and better antenna than the laptop being used as<br>
> NANDblaster sender.<br>
><br>
> So it is perhaps the combination of small damage to one laptop and<br>
> large damage to another laptop, that causes NANDblaster to fail. But<br>
> the combination of good access point and large damage causes Sugar<br>
> networking to be successful.<br>
><br>
> See <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Antenna_testing#Link_Budget" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Antenna_testing#Link_Budget</a> for a<br>
> calculation of wireless success, to see what variables are important.<br>
><br>
> Does Sugar in ad-hoc wireless mode work between the two laptops? Or<br>
> Sugar in mesh wireless mode with no other laptops nearby?<br>
><br>
> If so, that's very interesting.<br>
><br>
> Open Firmware and Linux use different commands sent to the wireless card.<br>
><br>
> I've checked, and we are using the same wireless firmware 5.110.22.p23<br>
> in both Open Firmware and Linux (build 883).<br>
><br>
> Daniel, do you know of any commands that the Linux kernel may have<br>
> sent to the card that may improve signal, even by accident?<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Jul 09, 2012 at 04:06:16PM +0545, Roshan Karki wrote:<br>
>> I tried with antenna change but as you told, didn't work. So I think this is<br>
>> the dead end. Thank you for your help. But one question I wonder is in Sugar I<br>
>> can use very poor network very well. Why not use the same mechanism in OFW as<br>
>> well?<br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 10:41 AM, James Cameron <<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org">quozl@laptop.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> G'day,<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks for the photographs. There's nothing wrong that I can see<br>
>> either.<br>
>><br>
>> Repair may attempt antenna change, but it is unlikely to be fixed with<br>
>> only antenna change.<br>
>><br>
>> Perhaps the radio module has been damaged. On XO-1 the module is<br>
>> soldered down and is impractical to replace. In later models (XO-1.5,<br>
>> XO-1.75) the module is in a socket.<br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> James Cameron<br>
>> <a href="http://quozl.linux.org.au/" target="_blank">http://quozl.linux.org.au/</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> James Cameron<br>
> <a href="http://quozl.linux.org.au/" target="_blank">http://quozl.linux.org.au/</a><br>
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