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well i have windows and am planning to transfuse to linux in a really short time (shortage of games on linux makes this harder) i've used linux a lot<BR><br><BR>i use netbeans (and sometimes C::B) for C++ programming<br><BR><br><BR>i am not an expert but i'd like to start<BR><br><BR>I've used sugar on Virtual Box with 512 MB of memory but it is very slow (i have 4GB)<BR><br><BR>i still haven't investigated much in sugar but i'm working on that<BR><br><BR>and what is this really really long FAQ (is this for me to stop bugging you with my e-mails)<BR><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 17:40:30 -0300<br>Subject: Re: C\C++ & SDL<br>From: gonzalo@laptop.org<br>To: ahmed_nematallah@hotmail.com<br>CC: devel@lists.laptop.org<br><br>Is very difficult to know what you know and what not,<br>what environment do you have, and what yo want to do.<br>If you really want participate, take time to look at the different alternatives to install<br>a working Sugar, <a href="
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads/Landing_page" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads/Landing_page</a><br>
and tell us what are your plans.<br>We can help you, but you must do the right questions<br><a href="http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html" target="_blank">http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html</a><br><br>Gonzalo<br><br>
<br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">2011/8/8 mustafa nematallah <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ahmed_nematallah@hotmail.com">ahmed_nematallah@hotmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex">
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come on man do i have to say a thousand times that i dont know how to do most of that as this is my first time to try to support an open source project<br><br><br>a little help with how to fix bugs or send patches , etc...<br>
<br><br><br>Thank you<br><br><div><hr>Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 17:20:36 -0300<div class="ecxim"><br>Subject: Re: C\C++ & SDL<br></div>From: <a href="mailto:gonzalo@laptop.org">gonzalo@laptop.org</a><div class="ecxim">
<br>To: <a href="mailto:ahmed_nematallah@hotmail.com">ahmed_nematallah@hotmail.com</a><br></div>CC: <a href="mailto:pgf@laptop.org">pgf@laptop.org</a>; <a href="mailto:devel@lists.laptop.org">devel@lists.laptop.org</a><div>
<div class="h5"><br><br>Probably the best way, will be start helping with one of the many tasks we already know there are pending,<br>like fixing a bug or implementing a improvement.<br>The community is very active, but there are not so much hands as needed.<br>
Do you have a working Sugar environment? This is your first task.<br>If is already done, I suggest you take one activity and look for the bugs opened.<br>We have two different trac instances in use, for historical reasons, then I use a index page <a href="http://dev.laptop.org/~gonzalo/bugs_index.html" target="_blank">http://dev.laptop.org/~gonzalo/bugs_index.html</a><br>
to see the tickets pending by activity.<br>If you found a task you want implement, send a mail a sugar-devel mailing list, <br>the maintainer can help you to check if is correct, he knows the code and the design decisions made.<br>
Is this useful for you?<br>Are you looking for C/C++ tasks? Most of the Sugar code is python, but may be we can found you anything to do :)<br><br>Gonzalo<br><br><br><br><div>2011/8/8 mustafa nematallah <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ahmed_nematallah@hotmail.com">ahmed_nematallah@hotmail.com</a>></span><br>
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its the First time i try to help with an Open source project so i need more help <br><br><br><div><div>> To: <a href="mailto:ahmed_nematallah@hotmail.com">ahmed_nematallah@hotmail.com</a><br>
> Subject: Re: C\C++ & SDL<br>> From: <a href="mailto:pgf@laptop.org">pgf@laptop.org</a><br>> CC: <a href="mailto:devel@lists.laptop.org">devel@lists.laptop.org</a><br></div>> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 12:31:06 -0400<div>
<br>> <br>> mustafa wrote:<br>> > <br>> > Hi<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > well children can learn all those stuff at school but programming<br>> > must be done on a computer and as technology affects our life more<br>
> > more people must learn programming, searching, word processing,<br>> > etc.....<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > please tell me about those activity IDEs and how to compile with<br>> > them on OLPC and can a simple child easily get and use them<br>
> <br>> Etoys, TurtleArt, Scratch, and Pippy are the activities i was referring<br>> to. i'm sure you can find more information on them
on your own.<br>> <br>> > <br>> > and about physics if more people know how to program OLPC XOs<br>> > teachers (and maybe physics experts) can help program physics stuff<br>> <br>> Physics, like most Sugar activities, is written in python.<br>
> <br>> > and we can do both things just some people can improve physics<br>> > things while others increase support for programming languages<br>> <br>> you seem to feel that increased support for programming education<br>
> on the XO is extremely important. i heartily recommend that you<br>> get involved, and help create what it is you think is needed.<br>> <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > BTW I love physics and i think it should be better (it's more<br>
> > important than literature and unimportant stuff like that)<br>> <br>> i confess, with comment like that i'm starting to suspect you of being<br>> a troll.<br>> <br>> paul<br>> <br></div>&
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t; > <br><div>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > > To: <a href="mailto:ahmed_nematallah@hotmail.com">ahmed_nematallah@hotmail.com</a><br>> > > Subject: Re: C\C++ & SDL<br>
> > > From: <a href="mailto:pgf@laptop.org">pgf@laptop.org</a><br>> > > CC: <a href="mailto:devel@lists.laptop.org">devel@lists.laptop.org</a><br>> > > Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 10:43:56 -0400<br>
> > > <br>> > > mustafa wrote:<br>> > > > <br>> > > > a C++, python, C, Java, vala, Scala, (maybe C# too) ide with a<br>> > > > couple of tuts for each language bundled with the OLPC XO will be<br>
> > > > great so kids can learn programming<br>> > > <br>> > > contrary to what some believe, the goal of the XO, and the OLPC<br>> > > project overall, is not to teach kids programming. the goal is to<br>
> > > help kids learn _lots_ of things -- programming, and familiarity with<br></div>> > > computing, is one small part of an education that includes l
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arning to<div><br>> > > read, to write, to do math, to understand geography, or astronomy, or<br>> > > biology, or..., or..., or...<br>> > > <br>> > > the XO already support 4 (to my knowledge) programming environments as<br>
> > > Activities, and as others have said, more languages (C++, java,<br>> > > whatever) are readily installable, if not under sugar. i'd rather see<br>> > > Physics, for instance, become better suited as an instructional tool<br>
> > > than support for more computer languages.<br>> > > <br>> > > paul<br>> > > =---------------------<br>> > > paul fox, <a href="mailto:pgf@laptop.org">pgf@laptop.org</a><br>
> > <br>> =---------------------<br>> paul fox, <a href="mailto:pgf@laptop.org">pgf@laptop.org</a><br></div></div> </div></div>
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