<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Carlos,<div><br></div><div>+1</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for bringing this up.</div><div><br></div><div>FYI: One of our largest deployments and two other smaller deployments have received approval to ship Adobe Flash in their builds.</div><div><br></div><div>IMHO, OLPC would be able to provide deployments with the option of including Adobe Flash, while continuing to include Gnash as default, if they wish to do so without having to jump through the hurdles of applying and waiting for individual approval.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Reuben</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Mar 23, 2010, at 12:00 PM, <a href="mailto:devel-request@lists.laptop.org">devel-request@lists.laptop.org</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; ">Message: 2<br>Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:51:42 +0800<br>From: Carlos Nazareno <<a href="mailto:object404@gmail.com">object404@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Adobe Flash 10.1 + AIR 2.0 on the XO<br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:devel@lists.laptop.org">devel@lists.laptop.org</a><br>Message-ID:<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span><<a href="mailto:c58c2c4a1003230751k1391afb4m84e5fe832bff3321@mail.gmail.com">c58c2c4a1003230751k1391afb4m84e5fe832bff3321@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br><br>Hi guys.<br><br>I know most people here prefer free as in Libre as opposed to free as<br>in beer, but what do you think of coordinating with Adobe to get Flash<br>10.1 + AIR 2.0 on the XO?<br><br>Adobe already supports a lot of open-source initiatives and have<br>already open-sourced the Flex SDK which you can use to compile SWFs<br>using text files and a command line a la JDK (or in Windows, using an<br>open-source IDE like Flashdevelop (needs .NET runtime)).<br><a href="http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk">http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk</a><br><br>Flash's spec is open, but they cannot opensource the Flash Player or<br>AIR because they contain technologies which Adobe does not own but<br>pays licensing fees for.<br><br>With stuff like Youtube (using the camera to record a video, something<br>you cannot do with HTML5), UStream and games (which kids dig a lot),<br>the internet experience really isn't complete without Flash.<br><br>Moreover, the big difference is that with the Actionscript Virtual<br>Machine 2 which uses Actionscript 3, the speed difference from the<br>AVM1 (Actionscript 1/2 like GNASH) is 10x or more, which is very<br>important since we're talking about low-speed/power devices here.<br><br>Also, Flash Player 10.1 has been engineered for mobile devices so it<br>should run very efficiently on the XO 1.5 (you can only do so much<br>with the XO-1, but Flash 10 beats GNASH's performance on it<br>nonetheless).<br><br>Also (sorry John, Rob), Actionscript 2 is a dead technology which<br>needs to be put to rest (and there are few practical open source tools<br>to generate AS2/AVM1 SWFs). GNASH simply cannot catch up with the<br>features that are being implemented with each new release of Flash..<br><br>Also, Adobe is actively pushing Flash on as many devices as possible<br>via the Open Screen Project<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.openscreenproject.org/">http://www.openscreenproject.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and I'm<br>sure they'd be more than happy to have Flash get bundled on the XO.<br><br>Also, Flash is the most commonly used toolset for building educational<br>apps. Not everyone has the skill or patience to programmatically<br>animate objects in e-learning applications. What I mean is that it's<br>very efficient.<br><br>What do you guys think?<br><br>--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>carlos nazareno<br><a href="http://twitter.com/object404">http://twitter.com/object404</a><br><a href="http://www.object404.com/">http://www.object404.com</a><br>--<br>interactive media specialist<br>zen graffiti studios<br><a href="http://www.zengraffiti.com/">http://www.zengraffiti.com</a><br>--<br>"if you don't like the way the world is running,<br>then change it instead of just complaining."</span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>