On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Martin Langhoff <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:martin.langhoff@gmail.com">martin.langhoff@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
2009/2/8 Tiago Marques <<a href="mailto:tiagomnm@gmail.com">tiagomnm@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d">> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz<br>
> <<a href="mailto:bmschwar@fas.harvard.edu">bmschwar@fas.harvard.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
</div><div class="Ih2E3d">>> <a href="mailto:david@lang.hm">david@lang.hm</a> wrote:<br>
>> > the fact that KDE and GNOME (both desktops that are considered pigs on<br>
>> > normal machines) make a XO laptop seem snappy by comparison to Sugar (as<br>
>> > of December) means that there is a significant problem with Sugar.<br>
>><br>
>> I'm not happy to simply take this as "fact". It's either a measurement or<br>
>> an opinion.<br>
><br>
> It's a fact. I have installed xfce in NAND together with Sugar and I'm<br>
> running Opera with four tabs(one with the heavy gmail) and terminal - using<br>
> 136MiB and no swap. Opera seems to leak memory though, it was only of 120MiB<br>
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</div>Tiago,<br>
<br>
go slower, read Ben's email - he is talking about "snappyness" and you<br>
are talking about memory.<br>
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Memory usage _is_ important, but Ben was talking about... speed.</blockquote><div></div><div>I know Ben was talking about speed, I wanted to give some figures of memory consumption compared to other desktop environments, since it's probably a worse problem than speed. IMHO, it is. </div>
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>> Blaming Python for our user-experience speed problems is not scientific,<br>
>> and it's not helpful. Have you found some critical piece of code that you<br>
>> can rewrite in C for speed? We'd love that.<br>
><br>
> Would that be welcome?<br>
<br>
</div>Yes. And you don't need to write things from scratch - reusing or<br>
adapting existing window managers for example would be a win. We want<br>
to retain the Sugar experience though.</blockquote><div></div><div>Ok. Of course, it must be retained.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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The last 3 months have seen quite a bit of discussion on this list. Do<br>
pay a visit to the archives...</blockquote><div></div><div>Ok. Will do.</div><div></div><div>Best regards,</div><div> Tiago Marques</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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cheers,<br>
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m<br>
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