On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Mitch Bradley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wmb@laptop.org" target="_blank">wmb@laptop.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Guess what? The people at OLPC, who aren't stupid, already considered<br>
every point in the message cited below, a long time ago. So why aren't<br>
we doing them? ...* *On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Carlos Nazareno<br>
<<a href="mailto:object404@gmail.com" target="_blank">object404@gmail.com</a>>wrote:</blockquote><div></div><div>Nobody's saying anyone is stupid. It is perfectly natural for people to complain about things they don't understand. I also wish I could, from time to time, to ask this or that, to understand many things I don't comprehend, to know what I can do to help. This without getting into any kind of fight with the people involved with the project, who are the only ones who can answer those questions.</div>
<div></div><div>As with any critical comment I may issue in this mailing list,<strong> please take it as something constructive</strong>, to help (if it does, in any way) and not to criticize the people who are hard at work. That, I think, is what Carlos was trying to do.</div>
<div></div><div>I got my XO three weeks ago and there's a lot I was surprised to learn that some of the more important features are WIP or simply don't work, especially given the news that I've read, already detailing prototypes of a second version, when there's still a lot to do with the first one.</div>
<div></div><div>Sugar is a fantastic window manager/desktop/user interface/learning tool/whatever. I don't understand how can <em>any</em> government give 6 year olds anything that's not Sugar - it is wonderful, it integrates very well with the XO and I would like to be able to use it more but it doesn't really blend well with the rest of the Linux software ecosystem. </div>
<div>This, among other things, may be the cause that the G1G1 program wasn't successful this year. There are too many better options, for a regular user, currently available, and cheaper. Most people don't care for a reflective screen if they can't have Youtube. They already can have 5 hours of battery life(or more) in some netbooks, a lot more flash memory/HDD, better *color* screen. Even then some people claim the performance of netbooks isn't good enough - imagine what they would say about an XO.</div>
<div></div><div>I'm surprised how much stuff still doesn't work in the XO. I can't, for as much as I think about it, how can you be shipping these things without space for swap memory. I can open a PDF and a browser without the XO being apparently crashed and this is the most basic stuff. I know why the system "crashes" but you can't expect a politician to understand why Intel's offering doesn't crash and yours does all the time, <strong>it just makes it look like crap</strong>, which it certainly isn't. Doing SWAP in the embedded flash is a bad ideia but there's an SD card slot and having the XO crashing all the time is a worst case scenario - it may be a compromise in Africa but not in the least developed country.</div>
<div></div><div>There's no stylus support yet, there's no view source working(AFAIK) and the wireless range isn't as awsome as announced. My mother has an Acer One which, apparently, has a significantly better wireless signal, at least from small experiences, I haven't messed with it much, it's an initial impression - which for most people is the one that matters.</div>
<div></div><div>Worse is the battery life, I can't get more than 3 hours out of my XO and all seems fine with the battery. If I was to heavily depend on the 24 hours touted(when not even 24 in suspend), I would be very disappointed, let alone 6 hours which I also don't get. Experimental results isn't something that the project should be shouting about all the time - that's just vaporware. Worse, it makes the OLPC Foundation loose credibility as a whole. No company can be constantly over promising and underdelivering, let alone a non-profit foundation.</div>
<div></div><div>Currently, aside from the screen and mesh networking, you're loosing by big points in all the rest. The advantages the XO still has are things that don't matter for most potential buying governments, the ones who have the big bucks.</div>
<div></div><div>I don't know where the foundation got the numbers in the first time, but 50 million laptops was far from anything that can be achieved. Especially without retail availability of a $170 laptop. IMHO, or the XO-1 has retail availability soon, that can(finally) bring that number to the desired target, or you eventually loose out to Intel (with dire consequences). After all, retail availability has been bringing production costs down for them. Either you make it unprofitable for them or they make it unfeasible for you to follow the vision.</div>
<div></div><div>You can't expect most people to pay $399 for a laptop (spectacular for third world countries) of no (or limited) usefulness for a regular person. Not with faster netbooks available at $199 (have you seen an acer one booting???) - not everyone is so good at their heart to give one away, when they can save $199 for themselves. Not everyone knows that your battery lasts four times more, that it costs only $25 to replace, that all parts are cheap, if they ever break! That doesn't matter for most people, even though they should, and that leaves the XO in a competitively bad position. And that's what you should also talk about, nowadays everyone knows they're ripped off in their laptops, iPhone, PSP, whatever battery, that's part of a good image that the project can benefit from, if retail availability ever comes.</div>
<div></div><div>Python is killing the XO, what's being done in that regard? The $100 laptop will always be hardware limited, how can python be a benefit and not a *huge* burden? I for one can't get my head around that.</div>
<div></div><div>I got my XO to help someone also, if I didn't, I would have bought a PSP, a DSi, a Eee 701, something cheaper with wireless. All I wanted was a smaller wireless device with good battery life to read books, browse the web and little more. This could've come cheaper but I like my XO - I already knew how underpowered it would be.</div>
<div></div><div>I could also go on and on of what's about great about the XO, and there's a whole lot, but that's not something that can be improved, that's already great as is, and you know what it is! </div>
<div></div><div>What's bad is what needs to be improved, to be talked about, it's necessary to fix the rest so there's nothing left hampering a bright future for the machine, and for the project.</div>
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</div><p>Best regards,<br></p><p> Tiago Marques</p>