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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=454474121-15052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Ok. I found 4 networking scenarios on the wiki
at this link: <A
href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Networking_scenarios">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Networking_scenarios</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=454474121-15052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I was a little surprised not to see a scenario where a mesh
network connects via a mesh portal without a school server. Is this
a valid scenario, or was it deliberately excluded for some
reason?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=454474121-15052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Did anybody explicitly define how the networking should
handle changes in configuration? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>An obvious one is from an p2p mesh to a school
mesh. I can see how there could be troubles with a cluster of
1 or more XOs which have an ephemeral connection to the school mesh - they would
tend to thrash between link local address assignment and DHCP address assignment
as the weak connection faded in and out. I think the same thing
would happen with mDNS and the presence protocols.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=454474121-15052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I'm really trying to get at the vision for how networking
should work. I've seen some comments here and there that networking
should just work - but I'm looking for something at the next level of
detail. I'm listening if anyone would like to share their
opinion.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=454474121-15052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Bill</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> kim.quirk@gmail.com
[mailto:kim.quirk@gmail.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Kim Quirk<BR><B>Sent:</B>
Thursday, May 15, 2008 4:40 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Mccormick, Bill
(CAR:CTO2)<BR><B>Cc:</B> John Watlington; Ricardo Carrano; Martin
Langhoff<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: FW: School mesh config<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Bill,<BR>I'm adding Martin and Ricardo to this email thread in case
they can help. <BR><BR>I would also suggest you post your questions directly to
<A href="mailto:devel@lists.laptop.org">devel@lists.laptop.org</A> as it isn't
always clear who will be the best person to answer a request.
<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Kim<BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Bill Mccormick <<A
href="mailto:billmcc@nortel.com">billmcc@nortel.com</A>> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>It's hard
to verify the net mgr is doing it's job if we're not sure what the job
is.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>How about
I draw up a description of the 4 networking scenarios (school server, access
point, mesh portal and mesh) based on the wiki and you folks can tell me if
this is what you intended?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Bill</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:kim.quirk@gmail.com"
target=_blank>kim.quirk@gmail.com</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:kim.quirk@gmail.com" target=_blank>kim.quirk@gmail.com</A>] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Kim Quirk<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:08
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Mccormick, Bill (CAR:CTO2)<BR><B>Cc:</B> John
Watlington<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: FW: School mesh config<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>Sorry, Bill. Everyone here has been flat out and next week is
supposed to be even worse.<BR><BR>There's lots of info on our wiki -- just a
little difficult to find. I would point you to the main page, and the
'testing' link (on the left hand side). <A href="http://wiki.laptop.org"
target=_blank>wiki.laptop.org</A>. You will see some 'Networking Scenarios' in
the Links of Interest section; and from there you can find other
links.<BR><BR>You can find various developer lists here, (devel being the most
active) where you might get answers to questions like this a lot faster than
John or I can respond: <A href="http://lists.laptop.org"
target=_blank>lists.laptop.org</A><BR><BR>Thanks for your patience. Hope to
talk again this Friday.<BR>Regards,<BR>Kim<BR><BR><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Mccormick, Bill (CAR:CTO2)
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 09, 2008 4:46 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'John
Watlington'<BR><B>Subject:</B> School mesh config<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hey John,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>I've got my first pass through the
network manager code done & I can even almost build it (there were some
changes to libnl I have to deal with) on my Fedora 8
box.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>At our last meeting we talked a bit about
the school mesh configuration... do you have any written info on
this?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>if not could we do a call next week and I
will pick your brains?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>hope you have a good
weekend...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bill</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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