Hi Marc,<br>I don't think this is a Write bug... or at least I haven't been doing enough testing in Write to understand if there is a bug there or not. The problem I need help with is related to the keyboard and affects all Sugar and Activities. <br>
<br>It does not affect the virtual terminal. More details can be found in the trac item: <br><a href="http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6945">http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6945</a><br><br>Kim<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
2008/5/1 J.M. Maurer <<a href="mailto:uwog@uwog.net">uwog@uwog.net</a>>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Which Write version are we talking about here exactly? I know the Write<br>
version in sugar-jhbuild includes a big Amharic IM patch from Tomas<br>
Frydrych, which I doubt is in any of the production builds at the<br>
moment. Maybe that solves part of the problem?<br>
<br>
As for the context menu: it was removed following some UI guidelines I<br>
got from (iirc) Eben. Some sort of stripped down context menu should be<br>
added back imo, as we also lost our spelling suggestions with removing<br>
it.<br>
<br>
Marc<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 22:54 +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote:<br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">> We need *way* more people in this thread if we want to get<br>
> out of it! ;-)<br>
><br>
> Sorry for the excessive quoting: it's to give Martin, Uwog<br>
> and Sergey the whole context. Behdad is also on cc because<br>
> I remember he was quite a guru of these things (let us<br>
> know if you just want to be left in peace).<br>
><br>
> I'd also be inclined to add devel@ because there seems to<br>
> be little reason to keep this discretion confidential.<br>
> Anyone opposed?<br>
><br>
> ---8<---<br>
><br>
> Arjun Sarwal wrote:<br>
><br>
> > In my opinion this is something to do with using the correct font in<br>
> > Abiword. Bernie can perhaps comment better.<br>
><br>
> Yes, there was quite a catch!<br>
><br>
> If I remember correctly, AbiWord automatically switches to the<br>
> AM+ GTK input method when LANG=am_ET.UTF-8.<br>
><br>
> The AM+ input method is designed to let you type in Amharic<br>
> using a US keyboard layout. So you'd get the Amharic characters<br>
> either way!<br>
><br>
> Even worse, when you switch to the "am" layout, the input<br>
> method gets confused and should be turned off. To enable this,<br>
> there used to be a context menu to switch input methods, but it<br>
> went away in recent versions of the Write activity (I guess<br>
> intentionally, to be more compliant with our HIG). You may be<br>
> able to experiment more with the GTK edit widgets, which have<br>
> the menu still enabled.<br>
><br>
> There was also a newer version of the AM+ input method in<br>
> the works, but I can't remember who was working on it. Jim<br>
> may have memory of it.<br>
><br>
> To summarize: there's inconsistency/confusion between these<br>
> three things: the "am" xkb layout, AbiWord and the GTK input<br>
> method. In addition, eToys and other non-GTK activities will<br>
> not be able to use the input method. I'm unsure about Browse<br>
> because it's GTK, but through xulrunner. Which means it may<br>
> have problems of its own.<br>
><br>
> I've been tracking these unsolved problems in my wiki:<br>
> <a href="http://www.codewiz.org/wiki/EthiopianLocale" target="_blank">http://www.codewiz.org/wiki/EthiopianLocale</a><br>
><br>
> There are should also be a few bugs open in our Trac and<br>
> elsewhere. See the wiki page for references. Sorry I've let<br>
> these issues rot for months without reiterating. There were<br>
> plenty of higher priority blockers for Update.1 at the time,<br>
> and then I got sucked into other things.<br>
><br>
> I cannot easily make an estimate of the effort required to<br>
> solve all these remaining issues because they mostly affects<br>
> layers above X11 which I'm quite unfamiliar with. Those<br>
> people I added to the Cc list hopefully know better than me.<br>
><br>
> These things requires a good deal specialized knowledge to<br>
> get right. People like Arjun and myself may try to guess and<br>
> interpolate, but it's really the job of a true i18n engineer,<br>
> or at least someone who has an idea how Amharic input works<br>
> on regular Linux systems.<br>
><br>
><br>
> > Can you please confirm if you are observing exactly the same behavior<br>
> > as you described in the test above, in repeating the test in Terminal<br>
> > Activity ?<br>
><br>
> What OLPC build are we talking about, by the way? Ethiopian<br>
> had far more problems in Ship.{1,2} than in the later builds<br>
> that eventually became Update.1.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> > thanks,<br>
> > Arjun<br>
> ><br>
> >> Does that help figure out what is going on?<br>
> >><br>
> >> Kim<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> 2008/4/30 Arjun Sarwal <<a href="mailto:arjunsarwal@gmail.com">arjunsarwal@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >>> 2008/5/1 Kim Quirk <<a href="mailto:kim@laptop.org">kim@laptop.org</a>>:<br>
> >>><br>
> >>>> Arjun, Mitch,<br>
> >>>> I set the mfg-data to that which is found on:<br>
> >>>> <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Mfg-data" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Mfg-data</a> for ethiopia; then<br>
> >>>> reboot and reimaged 703... I am doing thi s on a B4 and can't get<br>
> >> English<br>
> >>>> characters. This was using the info Mitch provided (which I have been<br>
> >> using<br>
> >>>> to test mfg-data for a while now).<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> I haven't tried the KA setting... so I will try that next.<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> Thank you for providing the location where this is kept. My<br>
> >>>> /etc/sysconfig/keyboard file looks like this:<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> KEYTABLE="us"<br>
> >>>> XKB_MODEL="olpc"<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> XKB_LAYOUT="us,et"<br>
> >>>> XKB_VARIANT="olpc2,basic"<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> Is the KEYTABLE the problem?<br>
> >>> No, it seems fine. I had just included the two lines to be changed in my<br>
> >> email.<br>
> >>> The complete /etc/sysconfig/keyboard file should like like this after<br>
> >> editing --<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> KEYTABLE="us"<br>
> >>> XKB_MODEL="olpc"<br>
> >>> XKB_LAYOUT="us,et"<br>
> >>> XKB_VARIANT="olpc2,basic"<br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>>> On my laptop the virtual linux terminal is in english... All the sugar<br>
> >>>> typing is ONLY ethiopian characters.<br>
> >>> Please test on the Terminal Activity and not in the virtual linux<br>
> >>> terminal (Virtual terminal doesn't support alternate/multiple layouts<br>
> >>> AFAIK) You could also test in the Write Activity.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Arjun<br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>>> Kim<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> 2008/4/30 Mitch Bradley <<a href="mailto:wmb@laptop.org">wmb@laptop.org</a>>:<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>> This information is not in the wiki because I don't want end users<br>
> >>>> changing mfg data, thus creating support headaches.<br>
> >>>>> For development testing, you can change a tag value with, for example:<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> ok " KL" $delete-tag<br>
> >>>>> ok add-tag KL us,pk<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> The KA tag is somewhat more difficult because it has a long value with<br>
> >>>> binary data, so typing it in is error-prone. There is a script at<br>
> >>>> <a href="http://dev.laptop.org/%7Ewmb/setka.zip" target="_blank">http://dev.laptop.org/~wmb/setka.zip</a> that will do it for some keyboard<br>
> >>>> layouts that existed at the time I wrote the script.<br>
> >>>>> There is also a collection of Python scripts to make ".ka" files from<br>
> >> Wiki<br>
> >>>> pages.<br>
> >>>>> <a href="http://openbios.org/viewvc/cpu/x86/pc/olpc/?root=OpenFirmware" target="_blank">http://openbios.org/viewvc/cpu/x86/pc/olpc/?root=OpenFirmware</a> look<br>
> >> for<br>
> >>>> parse*.py<br>
> >>>>> The script to use depends on the format of the keyboard table in the<br>
> >> wiki<br>
> >>>> page.<br>
> >>>>> Arjun Sarwal wrote:<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> Kim,<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> I set from within Sugar to use us(olpc2) as first layout and<br>
> >> et(basic)<br>
> >>>>>> as second and it works fine.<br>
> >>>>>> I have an MP Machine with US English keyboard running the latest 703<br>
> >>>> candidate.<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> How you can do it from within Sugar is by editing<br>
> >>>> /etc/sysconfig/keyboard<br>
> >>>>>> and modify the following two lines to read as follows (leave the<br>
> >>>>>> other lines as they are) --<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> XKB_LAYOUT="us,et"<br>
> >>>>>> XKB_VARIANT="olpc2,basic"<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> then save this file and reboot the XO.<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> Upon reboot, test in the Terminal.<br>
> >>>>>> Type a few characters and you should see Amharic characters. Press<br>
> >> the<br>
> >>>>>> language switch key and you should see English characters, press the<br>
> >>>>>> language switch key again and you should see Amharic characters<br>
> >> again.<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> I couldn't find the link in the Team namespace on teamwiki to edit<br>
> >>>>>> tags in OFW. If you could point me to that page, I could test<br>
> >> setting<br>
> >>>>>> the tags in OFW and test out that aspect out too.<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> thanks<br>
> >>>>>> Arjun<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> 2008/4/28 Zihaw Zhang(张正华) <<a href="mailto:Zihaw.Zhang@quantacn.com">Zihaw.Zhang@quantacn.com</a>>:<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Dear Kim,<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Please tell us how can we to do next step? Shipping or hold<br>
> >>>> shipment<br>
> >>>>>>> and wait to update IMG or others? Our production line already<br>
> >> produced<br>
> >>>> a few<br>
> >>>>>>> SKU11 machines. If need to stop our production line to produce<br>
> >> SKU11?<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Best wishes!<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> EPBU QM Zihaw Zhang(张正华)<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Tel:+86 21 37818168 Ext:14860<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Tech-com(shanghai)Computer Co.,Ltd<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> E-mail: Zihaw <a href="mailto:Zhang@quantacn.com">Zhang@quantacn.com</a><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> ________________________________<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> 发件人: <a href="mailto:kim.quirk@gmail.com">kim.quirk@gmail.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:kim.quirk@gmail.com">kim.quirk@gmail.com</a>] 代表 Kim Quirk<br>
> >>>>>>> 发送时间: 2008年4月26日 3:30<br>
> >>>>>>> 收件人: Arjun Sarwal<br>
</div></div>> >>>>>>> 抄送: Xiang Wei(魏翔); Zihaw Zhang(张正华); Matt Huang (S嘉佑);<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d">> >>>> <a href="mailto:smithbone@gmail.com">smithbone@gmail.com</a>;<br>
> >>>>>>> Eric Jiang(江宗辉); <a href="mailto:production@laptop.org">production@laptop.org</a>; Bernie Innocenti; Mitch<br>
> >>>> Bradley;<br>
</div>> >>>>>>> Wayne Tsai(蔡汶钦); Devin Liu(⒅屹t)<br>
<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">> >>>>>>> 主题: Re: 答复: [Production] 答复: sku 10 sku 11 doudt<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Thanks Arjun,<br>
> >>>>>>> I am testing with 703 because I was convinced there wasn't any<br>
> >> real<br>
> >>>> support<br>
> >>>>>>> in 656. I can (and have) set mfg-data as if it is being set at<br>
> >>>> quanta... so<br>
> >>>>>>> I know that part is working.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> I use $add-tag and $delete-tag from OFW. I also re-image the<br>
> >> laptop<br>
> >>>> with<br>
> >>>>>>> 703 after each major change to the mfg-data since I believe there<br>
> >>>> might be a<br>
> >>>>>>> problem with the 'first' time you boot after reimaging versus<br>
> >> trying<br>
> >>>> to make<br>
> >>>>>>> a change in mfg-data and just booting.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> So I think I'm doing everything right. But there seems to be no<br>
> >> way<br>
> >>>> to get<br>
> >>>>>>> English characters... only Ethiopian.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Also, the wiki mfg-data says 'olpc2,basic'. As I mentioned below,<br>
> >> I<br>
> >>>> tried<br>
> >>>>>>> both 'olpc2,basic' and 'olpc2,olpc' -- but neither of these let me<br>
> >> get<br>
> >>>> to<br>
> >>>>>>> the English character set. Once it is loaded, I also try to press<br>
> >> or<br>
> >>>> hold<br>
> >>>>>>> down the change keyboards key (lower right second from the<br>
> >> bottom).<br>
> >>>>>>> Kim<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> 2008/4/25 Arjun Sarwal <<a href="mailto:arjun@laptop.org">arjun@laptop.org</a>>:<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Kim,<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> I am sorry to go back one step and ask if a build prior to<br>
> >> Update.1<br>
> >>>> build<br>
> >>>>>>> is being used.<br>
> >>>>>>> The language switch key does not work for Ethiopian Keyboards in<br>
> >>>> those<br>
> >>>>>>> builds. Hence the XO doesn't know how to switch to English.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> However we have fixed it in Update.1 builds. If you are<br>
> >> experiencing<br>
> >>>> this<br>
> >>>>>>> problem in 703, please let me know -- we'd need to quickly review<br>
> >> the<br>
> >>>>>>> patches that have gone into Update.1<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> The correct variants that we need for a Ethopian+English layout<br>
> >> are<br>
> >>>> --<br>
> >>>>>>> us -- olpc2<br>
> >>>>>>> et -- olpc<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Regarding setting these correctly within OFW, I don't have the<br>
> >>>> reference<br>
> >>>>>>> sheet for the various tags , so I can't comment on if you setting<br>
> >> them<br>
> >>>>>>> correctly or not. Perhaps Mitch/Bernie might be able to tell<br>
> >> better.<br>
> >>>>>>> Bernie: For you reference this is the upstream patch submission<br>
> >> we<br>
> >>>> had<br>
> >>>>>>> made for language switch key in Ethiopian layouts<br>
> >>>>>>> <a href="http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14225" target="_blank">http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14225</a><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Please let me know if I can help in any other way.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> best,<br>
> >>>>>>> Arjun<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> 2008/4/25 Kim Quirk <<a href="mailto:kim@laptop.org">kim@laptop.org</a>>:<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Zihaw, Xiang,<br>
> >>>>>>> You are correct that there is a problem with the default or<br>
> >> second<br>
> >>>>>>> language.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Bernie, Arjun,<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> The mfg-data for this keyboard is the only one that is using:<br>
> >>>> olpc2,basic<br>
> >>>>>>> for KV (keyboard variant). I tried changing that to 'olpc2,olpc'.<br>
> >> I<br>
> >>>> also<br>
> >>>>>>> tried removing the space in the KL variable (yours is 'us, et';<br>
> >> and I<br>
> >>>> think<br>
> >>>>>>> we want 'us,et'). Neither of these changes helped.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Please examine the mfg-data and tell me what you think could be<br>
> >>>> causing<br>
> >>>>>>> this laptop to come up in Ethiopian with no way to get English<br>
> >>>> characters...<br>
> >>>>>>> Thanks!!<br>
> >>>>>>> Kim<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> 2008/4/25 Xiang Wei(魏翔) <<a href="mailto:Xiang.Wei@quantacn.com">Xiang.Wei@quantacn.com</a>>:<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Daer Zihaw:<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> About the SKU11,can not type and display Engliash language<br>
> >> under<br>
> >>>>>>> Terminal Application, I have verified with Image 703.the result is<br>
> >>>> fail<br>
> >>>>>>> .now~,I do the steps as below:<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> 1) Just only update IMG to 703 ,the firmware is still Q1D07<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> When boot into X-windows, all Appliaction can not display, blank<br>
> >> space<br>
> >>>> under<br>
> >>>>>>> XO<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> 2) update IMG to 703,and the firmware from Q1D07 to Q1D14<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> the symptom just as above ,then I copy Terminal-10.xo to USB ,<br>
> >> just<br>
> >>>> want to<br>
> >>>>>>> imitate the Terminal Application like OS install,then launch the<br>
> >>>>>>> Terminal,but type any key .it always display Ethiopia language<br>
> >> ,not<br>
> >>>> English<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> I think that Image 703 can not fix the SKU11 problem ,so we<br>
> >> should<br>
> >>>> turn<br>
> >>>>>>> to Kim for her help.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Do you think so?<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> ________________________________<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> 发件人: <a href="mailto:production-bounces@lists.laptop.org">production-bounces@lists.laptop.org</a><br>
> >>>>>>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:production-bounces@lists.laptop.org">production-bounces@lists.laptop.org</a>] 代表 Zihaw Zhang(张正华)<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> 发送时间: 2008年4月25日 星期五 9:43<br>
> >>>>>>> 收件人: Kim Quirk; Bezier Huang(黄其敏); Bernie Innocenti; Arjun<br>
> >> Sarwal;<br>
> >>>> Mitch<br>
> >>>>>>> Bradley<br>
</div></div>> >>>>>>> 抄送: Matt Huang (S嘉佑); Catherine Yin(殷洁); <a href="mailto:smithbone@gmail.com">smithbone@gmail.com</a>;<br>
<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">> >> Eric<br>
> >>>>>>> Jiang(江宗辉); Min Xia(夏敏); <a href="mailto:production@laptop.org">production@laptop.org</a><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> 主题: [Production] 答复: sku 10 sku 11 doudt<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Dear Kim,<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> What about SKU11 problem? It is also urgent. Thanks!<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> SKU11 question: When we test terminal function, need to input<br>
> >> command,<br>
> >>>> but<br>
> >>>>>>> it only can input ETH language, we can't input English. But the OS<br>
> >>>> can't<br>
> >>>>>>> know ETH language. So we have no way to verify the function. We<br>
> >> don't<br>
> >>>> know<br>
> >>>>>>> how shift English.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Best wishes!<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> EPBU QM Zihaw Zhang(张正华)<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Tel:+86 21 37818168 Ext:14860<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Tech-com(shanghai)Computer Co.,Ltd<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> E-mail: Zihaw <a href="mailto:Zhang@quantacn.com">Zhang@quantacn.com</a><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> ________________________________<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> 发件人: <a href="mailto:kim.quirk@gmail.com">kim.quirk@gmail.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:kim.quirk@gmail.com">kim.quirk@gmail.com</a>] 代表 Kim Quirk<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> 发送时间: 2008年4月25日 0:29<br>
> >>>>>>> 收件人: Bezier Huang(黄其敏); Bernie Innocenti; Arjun Sarwal; Mitch<br>
> >> Bradley<br>
> >>>>>>> 抄送: <a href="mailto:wad@laptop.org">wad@laptop.org</a>; <a href="mailto:smithbone@gmail.com">smithbone@gmail.com</a>; <a href="mailto:production@laptop.org">production@laptop.org</a>;<br>
> >> Gary<br>
</div></div>> >>>>>>> Liu(刘坤政); Matt Huang (S嘉佑); Luna Huang (S玲); Devin Liu(⒅屹t);<br>
<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">> >>>> Catherine<br>
> >>>>>>> Yin(殷洁); Zihaw Zhang(张正华); Eva Liu(刘颖); Eric Jiang(江宗辉); Min<br>
> >> Xia(夏敏)<br>
> >>>>>>> 主题: Re: sku 10 sku 11 doudt<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> I updated a laptop here to 703, changed mfg-data to SKU10, and the<br>
> >> ?/<br>
> >>>> keys<br>
> >>>>>>> work just fine in both the terminal and Abiword.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> I think that means it is ok.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> You can produce these.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,<br>
> >>>>>>> Kim<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> 2008/4/24 Kim Quirk <<a href="mailto:kim@laptop.org">kim@laptop.org</a>>:<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Mitch, Arjun, Bernie - do you think the problems described below<br>
> >> are<br>
> >>>> fixed<br>
> >>>>>>> in a newer release? Might it be a problem in mfg-data (like the<br>
> >> 'KA'<br>
> >>>> tag)?<br>
> >>>>>>> It would be OK if the problems seen will be fixed when a newer OS<br>
> >> is<br>
> >>>> used.<br>
> >>>>>>> We will have to ask the countries to upgrade when the laptops get<br>
> >> into<br>
> >>>> the<br>
> >>>>>>> field (which is normal). If the problem can NOT be fixed with an<br>
> >>>> upgrade...<br>
> >>>>>>> then what should be done now?<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,<br>
> >>>>>>> Kim<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> 2008/4/24 Bezier Huang(黄其敏) <<a href="mailto:Bezier.Huang@quantacn.com">Bezier.Huang@quantacn.com</a>>:<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Dear kim<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> We have 2 doubts on sku 10 and sku 11<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> 1, on sku 10, we cann't use "?/" key as attached file in<br>
> >> terminal,<br>
> >>>> but<br>
> >>>>>>> we can use it in workpad ,is right?<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> 2, on sku 11, we can't type command in terminal, only can type<br>
> >>>> word in<br>
> >>>>>>> Amharic, how to shift? If can't shift, can we drop this test ?<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Please give me answer ASAP<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Thank you<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Bezier Huang<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> --<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Arjun Sarwal<br>
> >>>>>>> Intern, One Laptop per Child<br>
> >>>>>>> Email: <a href="mailto:arjun@laptop.org">arjun@laptop.org</a><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> IRC: arjs on <a href="http://irc.freenode.net" target="_blank">irc.freenode.net</a> in #olpc, #olpc-health, #sugar<br>
> >>>>>>> Skype: arjunsarwal85<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
> >>>>>> Production mailing list<br>
> >>>>>> <a href="mailto:Production@lists.laptop.org">Production@lists.laptop.org</a><br>
> >>>>>> <a href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/production" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/production</a><br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>> --<br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Arjun Sarwal<br>
> >>> Intern, One Laptop per Child<br>
> >>> Email: <a href="mailto:arjun@laptop.org">arjun@laptop.org</a><br>
> >>> IRC: arjs on <a href="http://irc.freenode.net" target="_blank">irc.freenode.net</a> in #olpc, #olpc-health, #sugar<br>
> >>><br>
><br>
><br>
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