OK... after I set the mfg-data for ethiopia and did a cleaninstall, I went into the linux virtual terminal and the last line I read is: <br><br>"More than one layout variant on command line<br>Using "et", ignoring "olpc2,basic"<br>
<br>Seems like it is trying to tell me something... Any ideas? At least I am starting to feel like this is a software bug. Just opened a trac bug: 6945<br><br><br>Kim<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/4/30 Kim Quirk <<a href="mailto:kim@laptop.org">kim@laptop.org</a>>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Using Build 703 + G1G1 activities; the terminal acitivity, pippy, and abiword were all tested and I can't figure out how to get English characters. US/English characters show up only in linux virtual terminal.<br>
<br>Even after a cleaninstall to 703, typing in the NAME: is only available in ahmeric.<br>
<br>I set the mfg-data just as Quanta is setting it, based on the values from the mfg-data table: <br><br><table border="1"><tbody><tr><th>KM</th><th>KL</th><th>KV</th><th>LO</th><th>SKU(s)</th><th>KA Reference</th></tr>
</tbody></table>
<br><table border="1"><tbody><tr><td>olpc</td><td>us,et</td><td>olpc2,basic</td><td>am_ET.UTF-8</td><td>11</td><td>us</td></tr></tbody></table><br>Then do the cleaninstall (Arjun - did you do a cleaninstall after you set the values for keyboard??).<br>
<br>Can't get US/English characters in Pippy, Terminal, AbiWord activities. But I did get English numbers (top row). The other characters look like I am getting an alternate font when I toggle the character change key... just not the one I want to match the keyboard (English).<br>
<br>Thanks for any ideas,<br>Kim<br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/4/30 Bernie Innocenti <<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>>:<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">
<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
We need *way* more people in this thread if we want to get<br>
out of it! ;-)<br>
<br>
Sorry for the excessive quoting: it's to give Martin, Uwog<br>
and Sergey the whole context. Behdad is also on cc because<br>
I remember he was quite a guru of these things (let us<br>
know if you just want to be left in peace).<br>
<br>
I'd also be inclined to add devel@ because there seems to<br>
be little reason to keep this discretion confidential.<br>
Anyone opposed?<br>
<br>
---8<---<br>
<br>
Arjun Sarwal wrote:<br>
<br>
> In my opinion this is something to do with using the correct font in<br>
> Abiword. Bernie can perhaps comment better.<br>
<br>
Yes, there was quite a catch!<br>
<br>
If I remember correctly, AbiWord automatically switches to the<br>
AM+ GTK input method when LANG=am_ET.UTF-8.<br>
<br>
The AM+ input method is designed to let you type in Amharic<br>
using a US keyboard layout. So you'd get the Amharic characters<br>
either way!<br>
<br>
Even worse, when you switch to the "am" layout, the input<br>
method gets confused and should be turned off. To enable this,<br>
there used to be a context menu to switch input methods, but it<br>
went away in recent versions of the Write activity (I guess<br>
intentionally, to be more compliant with our HIG). You may be<br>
able to experiment more with the GTK edit widgets, which have<br>
the menu still enabled.<br>
<br>
There was also a newer version of the AM+ input method in<br>
the works, but I can't remember who was working on it. Jim<br>
may have memory of it.<br>
<br>
To summarize: there's inconsistency/confusion between these<br>
three things: the "am" xkb layout, AbiWord and the GTK input<br>
method. In addition, eToys and other non-GTK activities will<br>
not be able to use the input method. I'm unsure about Browse<br>
because it's GTK, but through xulrunner. Which means it may<br>
have problems of its own.<br>
<br>
I've been tracking these unsolved problems in my wiki:<br>
<a href="http://www.codewiz.org/wiki/EthiopianLocale" target="_blank">http://www.codewiz.org/wiki/EthiopianLocale</a><br>
<br>
There are should also be a few bugs open in our Trac and<br>
elsewhere. See the wiki page for references. Sorry I've let<br>
these issues rot for months without reiterating. There were<br>
plenty of higher priority blockers for Update.1 at the time,<br>
and then I got sucked into other things.<br>
<br>
I cannot easily make an estimate of the effort required to<br>
solve all these remaining issues because they mostly affects<br>
layers above X11 which I'm quite unfamiliar with. Those<br>
people I added to the Cc list hopefully know better than me.<br>
<br>
These things requires a good deal specialized knowledge to<br>
get right. People like Arjun and myself may try to guess and<br>
interpolate, but it's really the job of a true i18n engineer,<br>
or at least someone who has an idea how Amharic input works<br>
on regular Linux systems.<br>
<br>
<br>
> Can you please confirm if you are observing exactly the same behavior<br>
> as you described in the test above, in repeating the test in Terminal<br>
> Activity ?<br>
<br>
What OLPC build are we talking about, by the way? Ethiopian<br>
had far more problems in Ship.{1,2} than in the later builds<br>
that eventually became Update.1.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
> thanks,<br>
> Arjun<br>
><br>
>> Does that help figure out what is going on?<br>
>><br>
>> Kim<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> 2008/4/30 Arjun Sarwal <<a href="mailto:arjunsarwal@gmail.com" target="_blank">arjunsarwal@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>> 2008/5/1 Kim Quirk <<a href="mailto:kim@laptop.org" target="_blank">kim@laptop.org</a>>:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Arjun, Mitch,<br>
>>>> I set the mfg-data to that which is found on:<br>
>>>> <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Mfg-data" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Mfg-data</a> for ethiopia; then<br>
>>>> reboot and reimaged 703... I am doing thi s on a B4 and can't get<br>
>> English<br>
>>>> characters. This was using the info Mitch provided (which I have been<br>
>> using<br>
>>>> to test mfg-data for a while now).<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I haven't tried the KA setting... so I will try that next.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Thank you for providing the location where this is kept. My<br>
>>>> /etc/sysconfig/keyboard file looks like this:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> KEYTABLE="us"<br>
>>>> XKB_MODEL="olpc"<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> XKB_LAYOUT="us,et"<br>
>>>> XKB_VARIANT="olpc2,basic"<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Is the KEYTABLE the problem?<br>
>>> No, it seems fine. I had just included the two lines to be changed in my<br>
>> email.<br>
>>> The complete /etc/sysconfig/keyboard file should like like this after<br>
>> editing --<br>
>>><br>
>>> KEYTABLE="us"<br>
>>> XKB_MODEL="olpc"<br>
>>> XKB_LAYOUT="us,et"<br>
>>> XKB_VARIANT="olpc2,basic"<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>> On my laptop the virtual linux terminal is in english... All the sugar<br>
>>>> typing is ONLY ethiopian characters.<br>
>>> Please test on the Terminal Activity and not in the virtual linux<br>
>>> terminal (Virtual terminal doesn't support alternate/multiple layouts<br>
>>> AFAIK) You could also test in the Write Activity.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Arjun<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>> Kim<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> 2008/4/30 Mitch Bradley <<a href="mailto:wmb@laptop.org" target="_blank">wmb@laptop.org</a>>:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> This information is not in the wiki because I don't want end users<br>
>>>> changing mfg data, thus creating support headaches.<br>
>>>>> For development testing, you can change a tag value with, for example:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> ok " KL" $delete-tag<br>
>>>>> ok add-tag KL us,pk<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> The KA tag is somewhat more difficult because it has a long value with<br>
>>>> binary data, so typing it in is error-prone. There is a script at<br>
>>>> <a href="http://dev.laptop.org/%7Ewmb/setka.zip" target="_blank">http://dev.laptop.org/~wmb/setka.zip</a> that will do it for some keyboard<br>
>>>> layouts that existed at the time I wrote the script.<br>
>>>>> There is also a collection of Python scripts to make ".ka" files from<br>
>> Wiki<br>
>>>> pages.<br>
>>>>> <a href="http://openbios.org/viewvc/cpu/x86/pc/olpc/?root=OpenFirmware" target="_blank">http://openbios.org/viewvc/cpu/x86/pc/olpc/?root=OpenFirmware</a> look<br>
>> for<br>
>>>> parse*.py<br>
>>>>> The script to use depends on the format of the keyboard table in the<br>
>> wiki<br>
>>>> page.<br>
>>>>> Arjun Sarwal wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Kim,<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> I set from within Sugar to use us(olpc2) as first layout and<br>
>> et(basic)<br>
>>>>>> as second and it works fine.<br>
>>>>>> I have an MP Machine with US English keyboard running the latest 703<br>
>>>> candidate.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> How you can do it from within Sugar is by editing<br>
>>>> /etc/sysconfig/keyboard<br>
>>>>>> and modify the following two lines to read as follows (leave the<br>
>>>>>> other lines as they are) --<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> XKB_LAYOUT="us,et"<br>
>>>>>> XKB_VARIANT="olpc2,basic"<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> then save this file and reboot the XO.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Upon reboot, test in the Terminal.<br>
>>>>>> Type a few characters and you should see Amharic characters. Press<br>
>> the<br>
>>>>>> language switch key and you should see English characters, press the<br>
>>>>>> language switch key again and you should see Amharic characters<br>
>> again.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> I couldn't find the link in the Team namespace on teamwiki to edit<br>
>>>>>> tags in OFW. If you could point me to that page, I could test<br>
>> setting<br>
>>>>>> the tags in OFW and test out that aspect out too.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> thanks<br>
>>>>>> Arjun<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> 2008/4/28 Zihaw Zhang(张正华) <<a href="mailto:Zihaw.Zhang@quantacn.com" target="_blank">Zihaw.Zhang@quantacn.com</a>>:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Dear Kim,<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Please tell us how can we to do next step? Shipping or hold<br>
>>>> shipment<br>
>>>>>>> and wait to update IMG or others? Our production line already<br>
>> produced<br>
>>>> a few<br>
>>>>>>> SKU11 machines. If need to stop our production line to produce<br>
>> SKU11?<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Best wishes!<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> EPBU QM Zihaw Zhang(张正华)<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Tel:+86 21 37818168 Ext:14860<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Tech-com(shanghai)Computer Co.,Ltd<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> E-mail: Zihaw <a href="mailto:Zhang@quantacn.com" target="_blank">Zhang@quantacn.com</a><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> ________________________________<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> 发件人: <a href="mailto:kim.quirk@gmail.com" target="_blank">kim.quirk@gmail.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:kim.quirk@gmail.com" target="_blank">kim.quirk@gmail.com</a>] 代表 Kim Quirk<br>
>>>>>>> 发送时间: 2008年4月26日 3:30<br>
>>>>>>> 收件人: Arjun Sarwal<br>
>>>>>>> 抄送: Xiang Wei(魏翔); Zihaw Zhang(张正华); Matt Huang (黃嘉佑);<br>
>>>> <a href="mailto:smithbone@gmail.com" target="_blank">smithbone@gmail.com</a>;<br>
>>>>>>> Eric Jiang(江宗辉); <a href="mailto:production@laptop.org" target="_blank">production@laptop.org</a>; Bernie Innocenti; Mitch<br>
>>>> Bradley;<br>
>>>>>>> Wayne Tsai(蔡汶钦); Devin Liu(劉忠賢)<br>
>>>>>>> 主题: Re: 答复: [Production] 答复: sku 10 sku 11 doudt<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Thanks Arjun,<br>
>>>>>>> I am testing with 703 because I was convinced there wasn't any<br>
>> real<br>
>>>> support<br>
>>>>>>> in 656. I can (and have) set mfg-data as if it is being set at<br>
>>>> quanta... so<br>
>>>>>>> I know that part is working.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I use $add-tag and $delete-tag from OFW. I also re-image the<br>
>> laptop<br>
>>>> with<br>
>>>>>>> 703 after each major change to the mfg-data since I believe there<br>
>>>> might be a<br>
>>>>>>> problem with the 'first' time you boot after reimaging versus<br>
>> trying<br>
>>>> to make<br>
>>>>>>> a change in mfg-data and just booting.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> So I think I'm doing everything right. But there seems to be no<br>
>> way<br>
>>>> to get<br>
>>>>>>> English characters... only Ethiopian.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Also, the wiki mfg-data says 'olpc2,basic'. As I mentioned below,<br>
>> I<br>
>>>> tried<br>
>>>>>>> both 'olpc2,basic' and 'olpc2,olpc' -- but neither of these let me<br>
>> get<br>
>>>> to<br>
>>>>>>> the English character set. Once it is loaded, I also try to press<br>
>> or<br>
>>>> hold<br>
>>>>>>> down the change keyboards key (lower right second from the<br>
>> bottom).<br>
>>>>>>> Kim<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> 2008/4/25 Arjun Sarwal <<a href="mailto:arjun@laptop.org" target="_blank">arjun@laptop.org</a>>:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Kim,<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I am sorry to go back one step and ask if a build prior to<br>
>> Update.1<br>
>>>> build<br>
>>>>>>> is being used.<br>
>>>>>>> The language switch key does not work for Ethiopian Keyboards in<br>
>>>> those<br>
>>>>>>> builds. Hence the XO doesn't know how to switch to English.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> However we have fixed it in Update.1 builds. If you are<br>
>> experiencing<br>
>>>> this<br>
>>>>>>> problem in 703, please let me know -- we'd need to quickly review<br>
>> the<br>
>>>>>>> patches that have gone into Update.1<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> The correct variants that we need for a Ethopian+English layout<br>
>> are<br>
>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>> us -- olpc2<br>
>>>>>>> et -- olpc<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Regarding setting these correctly within OFW, I don't have the<br>
>>>> reference<br>
>>>>>>> sheet for the various tags , so I can't comment on if you setting<br>
>> them<br>
>>>>>>> correctly or not. Perhaps Mitch/Bernie might be able to tell<br>
>> better.<br>
>>>>>>> Bernie: For you reference this is the upstream patch submission<br>
>> we<br>
>>>> had<br>
>>>>>>> made for language switch key in Ethiopian layouts<br>
>>>>>>> <a href="http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14225" target="_blank">http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14225</a><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Please let me know if I can help in any other way.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> best,<br>
>>>>>>> Arjun<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> 2008/4/25 Kim Quirk <<a href="mailto:kim@laptop.org" target="_blank">kim@laptop.org</a>>:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Zihaw, Xiang,<br>
>>>>>>> You are correct that there is a problem with the default or<br>
>> second<br>
>>>>>>> language.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Bernie, Arjun,<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> The mfg-data for this keyboard is the only one that is using:<br>
>>>> olpc2,basic<br>
>>>>>>> for KV (keyboard variant). I tried changing that to 'olpc2,olpc'.<br>
>> I<br>
>>>> also<br>
>>>>>>> tried removing the space in the KL variable (yours is 'us, et';<br>
>> and I<br>
>>>> think<br>
>>>>>>> we want 'us,et'). Neither of these changes helped.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Please examine the mfg-data and tell me what you think could be<br>
>>>> causing<br>
>>>>>>> this laptop to come up in Ethiopian with no way to get English<br>
>>>> characters...<br>
>>>>>>> Thanks!!<br>
>>>>>>> Kim<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> 2008/4/25 Xiang Wei(魏翔) <<a href="mailto:Xiang.Wei@quantacn.com" target="_blank">Xiang.Wei@quantacn.com</a>>:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Daer Zihaw:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> About the SKU11,can not type and display Engliash language<br>
>> under<br>
>>>>>>> Terminal Application, I have verified with Image 703.the result is<br>
>>>> fail<br>
>>>>>>> .now~,I do the steps as below:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> 1) Just only update IMG to 703 ,the firmware is still Q1D07<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> When boot into X-windows, all Appliaction can not display, blank<br>
>> space<br>
>>>> under<br>
>>>>>>> XO<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> 2) update IMG to 703,and the firmware from Q1D07 to Q1D14<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> the symptom just as above ,then I copy Terminal-10.xo to USB ,<br>
>> just<br>
>>>> want to<br>
>>>>>>> imitate the Terminal Application like OS install,then launch the<br>
>>>>>>> Terminal,but type any key .it always display Ethiopia language<br>
>> ,not<br>
>>>> English<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I think that Image 703 can not fix the SKU11 problem ,so we<br>
>> should<br>
>>>> turn<br>
>>>>>>> to Kim for her help.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Do you think so?<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> ________________________________<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> 发件人: <a href="mailto:production-bounces@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">production-bounces@lists.laptop.org</a><br>
>>>>>>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:production-bounces@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">production-bounces@lists.laptop.org</a>] 代表 Zihaw Zhang(张正华)<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> 发送时间: 2008年4月25日 星期五 9:43<br>
>>>>>>> 收件人: Kim Quirk; Bezier Huang(黄其敏); Bernie Innocenti; Arjun<br>
>> Sarwal;<br>
>>>> Mitch<br>
>>>>>>> Bradley<br>
>>>>>>> 抄送: Matt Huang (黃嘉佑); Catherine Yin(殷洁); <a href="mailto:smithbone@gmail.com" target="_blank">smithbone@gmail.com</a>;<br>
>> Eric<br>
>>>>>>> Jiang(江宗辉); Min Xia(夏敏); <a href="mailto:production@laptop.org" target="_blank">production@laptop.org</a><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> 主题: [Production] 答复: sku 10 sku 11 doudt<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Dear Kim,<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> What about SKU11 problem? It is also urgent. Thanks!<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> SKU11 question: When we test terminal function, need to input<br>
>> command,<br>
>>>> but<br>
>>>>>>> it only can input ETH language, we can't input English. But the OS<br>
>>>> can't<br>
>>>>>>> know ETH language. So we have no way to verify the function. We<br>
>> don't<br>
>>>> know<br>
>>>>>>> how shift English.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Best wishes!<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> EPBU QM Zihaw Zhang(张正华)<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Tel:+86 21 37818168 Ext:14860<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Tech-com(shanghai)Computer Co.,Ltd<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> E-mail: Zihaw <a href="mailto:Zhang@quantacn.com" target="_blank">Zhang@quantacn.com</a><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> ________________________________<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> 发件人: <a href="mailto:kim.quirk@gmail.com" target="_blank">kim.quirk@gmail.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:kim.quirk@gmail.com" target="_blank">kim.quirk@gmail.com</a>] 代表 Kim Quirk<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> 发送时间: 2008年4月25日 0:29<br>
>>>>>>> 收件人: Bezier Huang(黄其敏); Bernie Innocenti; Arjun Sarwal; Mitch<br>
>> Bradley<br>
>>>>>>> 抄送: <a href="mailto:wad@laptop.org" target="_blank">wad@laptop.org</a>; <a href="mailto:smithbone@gmail.com" target="_blank">smithbone@gmail.com</a>; <a href="mailto:production@laptop.org" target="_blank">production@laptop.org</a>;<br>
>> Gary<br>
>>>>>>> Liu(刘坤政); Matt Huang (黃嘉佑); Luna Huang (黃綉玲); Devin Liu(劉忠賢);<br>
>>>> Catherine<br>
>>>>>>> Yin(殷洁); Zihaw Zhang(张正华); Eva Liu(刘颖); Eric Jiang(江宗辉); Min<br>
>> Xia(夏敏)<br>
>>>>>>> 主题: Re: sku 10 sku 11 doudt<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I updated a laptop here to 703, changed mfg-data to SKU10, and the<br>
>> ?/<br>
>>>> keys<br>
>>>>>>> work just fine in both the terminal and Abiword.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I think that means it is ok.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> You can produce these.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Thanks,<br>
>>>>>>> Kim<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> 2008/4/24 Kim Quirk <<a href="mailto:kim@laptop.org" target="_blank">kim@laptop.org</a>>:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Mitch, Arjun, Bernie - do you think the problems described below<br>
>> are<br>
>>>> fixed<br>
>>>>>>> in a newer release? Might it be a problem in mfg-data (like the<br>
>> 'KA'<br>
>>>> tag)?<br>
>>>>>>> It would be OK if the problems seen will be fixed when a newer OS<br>
>> is<br>
>>>> used.<br>
>>>>>>> We will have to ask the countries to upgrade when the laptops get<br>
>> into<br>
>>>> the<br>
>>>>>>> field (which is normal). If the problem can NOT be fixed with an<br>
>>>> upgrade...<br>
>>>>>>> then what should be done now?<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Thanks,<br>
>>>>>>> Kim<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> 2008/4/24 Bezier Huang(黄其敏) <<a href="mailto:Bezier.Huang@quantacn.com" target="_blank">Bezier.Huang@quantacn.com</a>>:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Dear kim<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> We have 2 doubts on sku 10 and sku 11<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> 1, on sku 10, we cann't use "?/" key as attached file in<br>
>> terminal,<br>
>>>> but<br>
>>>>>>> we can use it in workpad ,is right?<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> 2, on sku 11, we can't type command in terminal, only can type<br>
>>>> word in<br>
>>>>>>> Amharic, how to shift? If can't shift, can we drop this test ?<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Please give me answer ASAP<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Thank you<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Bezier Huang<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Arjun Sarwal<br>
>>>>>>> Intern, One Laptop per Child<br>
>>>>>>> Email: <a href="mailto:arjun@laptop.org" target="_blank">arjun@laptop.org</a><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> IRC: arjs on <a href="http://irc.freenode.net" target="_blank">irc.freenode.net</a> in #olpc, #olpc-health, #sugar<br>
>>>>>>> Skype: arjunsarwal85<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
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>>><br>
>>> --<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Arjun Sarwal<br>
>>> Intern, One Laptop per Child<br>
>>> Email: <a href="mailto:arjun@laptop.org" target="_blank">arjun@laptop.org</a><br>
>>> IRC: arjs on <a href="http://irc.freenode.net" target="_blank">irc.freenode.net</a> in #olpc, #olpc-health, #sugar<br>
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