[Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

[Jon Nettleton]

On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Daniel Narvaez <dwnarvaez at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> things are looking good so far, we already have all the models booting into
> sugar 0.101 with wif apparentlyi working. I would like to take a step back
> and understand a bit better where we want to go with this. Some random
> thoughts and questions.
>
> * To really understand how much work is left I think we need some good
> testing, especially on the hardware related bits. I expect there will be
> lots of small things to fix, but it would be good to understand as early as
> possible if there are roadblocks. I'm a bad tester and I've never used the
> XO much, so I'm often not sure what is a regression and what is not... thus
> helping with this would be particularly appreciated.
> * Which deployments are planning to ship 0.102 soon and hence are interested
> in this work? I know of AU. Maybe Uruguay?
> * Do we need to support all the XO models?
> * Should we contribute the olpc-os-builder changes back to OLPC or fork it?
> I don't know if OLPC will do any active development on the linux side of
> things, if not maybe better to turn this into a sugarlabs thing.
> * Are interested deployments using olpc-update? If I'm not mistake AU is
> not.
> * Do we care about maintaining the GNOME "dual boot"? I'm afraid we do, but
> I want to make sure.
> * As I mentioned in some other thread I'm interested in setting up automated
> builds from sugar master. I have some vague plan of what it would look like
> and wrote bits of it. The basic idea is that you would push changes to
> github and get images automatically built. I think this is good for upstream
> testing but the same infrastructure could be used by deployments. Are people
> interested in using this?

Why is all this work being put into Fedora 20?  The maintenance window
is limited and as of the next release they won't even support non-KMS
drivers by default.  Wouldn't make sense to look into a distribution
that provides and LTS release?  Resources already seem to be limited
so having to chase after Fedora every 6 months to a year seems like a
waste of resources.  The GTK3 and GNOME teams obviously have their
eyes on a different class of hardware than what is being used by
deployments.

-Jon