[Sugar-devel] Private vs Public conversations.

David Farning dfarning at activitycentral.com
Mon Oct 28 23:01:48 EDT 2013

I would like to thank everyone who has provided valuable feedback by
participating on this thread.

The three things I am going to takeway from the the thread are:
1. Jame's point about my position about not representing the median.
Due to my history and role in the ecosystem, I have upset some
apple-carts :(
2. Martin's point about the right hand not always being aware of what
the left hand is doing. This unfortunately seems to happen too
3. Finally, and most importantly, Daniel's point  about getting back
to the business of improving Sugar.

My proposal is that Activity Central make the next step of funding two
developers to work on HTML5 and JS. If we can find a mutually
beneficial relationship around this, we can see how we can expand the
relationship in the future.

Seem reasonable?

On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Daniel Narvaez <dwnarvaez at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 29 October 2013 01:14, David Farning <dfarning at activitycentral.com>
> wrote:
>> As two Data points:
>> In a private conversation with an Association employee they told me
>> that they conciser Activity Central a competitor because Activity
>> Central increased deployments expectations. Their strategy with regard
>> to Activity Central was to _not_ accept patches upstream with the goal
>> of causing Activity Central and Dextrose to collapse under its their
>> weight. As it was private conversation I am not sure how widely spread
>> the opinion was held.
> The patch queue is currently empty. In the last six months only one patchset
> was rejected. It was by Activity Central and it was rejected by me (not an
> OLPC employee) for purely technical reasons. The proof being that the same
> patchset landed after being cleaned up and resubmitted properly by another
> Activity Central developer.
> More in general, no single developer is in charge of patch reviewing, OLPC
> couldn't keep code out of the tree for non-technical reason even if they
> wanted to. More specifically the ability to approve patches was offered to
> one Activity Central developer, which never used it.
>> Recently there was a call for help testing HTML5 and JS. Two
>> developers Code and Roger have been writing proof of concept
>> activities. They have been receiving extensive off-list help getting
>> started. But, interestingly, their on-list request for clarification
>> about how to test datastore was met with silence.
> Mailing list posts going unanswered isn't really uncommon in free software
> projects. But most of the time it just means that no one knows the answer or
> everyone is too busy.
> Only me and Manuel are usually answering about HTML5. I have not answered
> because... gmail put those messages in my spam folder, sigh! Most likely the
> same happened to Manuel or he has been busy. (I need to take some sleep now
> but I'll try to answer asap).

David Farning
Activity Central: http://www.activitycentral.com

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