[Sugar-devel] Private vs Public conversations.

Walter Bender walter.bender at gmail.com
Mon Oct 28 15:51:56 EDT 2013

On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:01 PM, David Farning
<dfarning at activitycentral.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Martin Langhoff
> <martin.langhoff at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:04 PM, David Farning
>>> <dfarning at activitycentral.com> wrote:
>>>> I just wanted to bump this line of questions as, it is the critical
>>> I don't speak on behalf of the Association, but I think your positions
>>> are overstated. As far as I know, the Association is still pursing
>>> sales of XO laptops and is still supporting XO laptops in the field.
>>> Granted the pace of development is slowed and there is -- to my
>>> knowledge -- no team in place to develop an follow up to the XO 4.0. I
>>> don't have a clue as to what you mean by a "technical philanthropy"
>>> but it remains a non-profit associated dedicated to enhancing learning
>>> opportunities through one-to-one computing. The fact that the
>>> Association has private-sector partners is nothing new. It has had
>>> such partners since its founding in 2006.
>> +1 on Walter's words, David's position is overstated. OLPC has shrunk
>> its Sugar investment, that is true. But on the other points, nothing
>> has changed significantly, OLPC has always had to find sources of
>> funding.
> As I stated, I hope to be proven wrong.

You also stated:

> The degree of openness and transparency is our fundamental
> disagreement. Best case is that the status quo works, Sugar Labs
> thrives, and I am proven wrong. Worst case is that Sugar adopts to the
> changing environment.

Several of us have asked for an explanation.



>>>> Given financial constraints, these are reasonable shifts.
>> That's more like it ;-)
>>>> there are ways to establish publicly disclosed and mutually beneficial
>>>> relationships. In the meantime we are happy to provide deployments
>>>> support while seeding and supporting projects we feel are beneficial
>>>> to deployments such as School Server Community Edition and Sugar on
>>>> Ubuntu.
>> "Seeding and supporting projects" is how it's done.
>> cheers,
>> m
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> David Farning
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Walter Bender
Sugar Labs

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