Adobe Flash 10.1 + AIR 2.0 on the XO

[Tiago Marques]

Hi all,

I can tell you that youtube is well within reach of both the XO-1 and 1.5,
currently(or at least up to build 114), it was running better and faster on
the XO-1 rather than on the XO 1.5 due to the presence of Xv support. The
problem is that I can only have decent performance by not using Flash but by
using the Firefox Greasemonkey add-on and the HQTube script:
http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/63509

Flash is more or less a dead end, read
http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/for some insight.
The guy working on it is complaining of linux APIs and is not using Xv
because he chose not to - or so it seems. He claims that he can't use Xv
because he can't get the video data back from Xv to add RGB stuff that Flash
needs to embed, although some comments claim this is possible.

It would be a huge plus to get the hardware video decoding engine present in
the XO 1.5 working with Flash but after reading the posts, I would say it
would require a lot of effort and lobbying with both Adobe and VIA's
developers(AFAIK there's no interface to the video decoding engine).

I haven't tested Adobe Flash 10.1 yet but I wouldn't expect it to outperform
the 10.0 version - which just plain sucks. It is a resource hogger. The my
"world" will be a better place when I don't have to use Flash for anything.
Still, Adobe Flash is very important when trying to browse the web on the XO
1.5, as Gnash - at least for me - has had problems reproducing any kind of
content. Having it bundled with the XO 1.5 would be interesting while the
world doesn't move to HTML5 and would be a major plus if another G1G1 ever
occurs.

I'll try to put together a video and images of a demonstration of HQTube
running on both XOs tomorrow. If that can get into Sugar, you'll surely see
a world of video content accessible.

Best regards,
Tiago

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at tomeuvizoso.net> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 15:42, Gabriel Eirea <geirea at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello, interesting thread.
> >
> >> FYI: One of our largest deployments and two other smaller deployments
> have
> >> received approval to ship Adobe Flash in their builds.
> >
> > In Uruguay, Ceibal started shipping Adobe Flash with their official
> > build at the beginning of 2009.
> >
> > My personal observation is that this came from a high demand on two
> > fronts: kids and teachers complaining about youtube and online games
> > on one side, and local companies used to develop web pages and such
> > that wanted to create content but only had resources to do it in flash
> > and complained about gnash being too restrictive on the other side.
> >
> > As far as I can see, the results are mixed. Playing youtube videos and
> > other online music/video players is a big hit. However, the flash
> > player performance in the XO is very bad,
>
> An older release of Flash used to be good enough for youtube:
>
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5408
>
> Apparently, they removed Xv support at some point.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tomeu
>
> > kids complain that they
> > can't play most of the games because characters move very slowly, etc.
> > Local companies didn't add much to the content pool and all they can
> > do in terms of business plan is get some government agency give them
> > money for delivering a message. You can see some examples in:
> >
> >
> http://www.ceibal.edu.uy/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=216&Itemid=75
> >
> > My suggestion would be to use whatever contacts you may have at Adobe
> > to communicate that:
> >
> > 1) they have to improve the player's performance on the XO
> > 2) they have to make developers tools available for the XO
> > 3) they have to develop a sugar wrapper to run swf files as activities
> >
> > and if they do that, flash may be a viable alternative for
> > deployments. Otherwise it would never be.
> >
> > All this, IMHO.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Gabriel
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